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re: I hope trump holds this against zelensky

Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:07 am to
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25427 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:07 am to
Trump should declare Zelensky an enemy of the state on 1/20/25.

STOP SENDING THIS MOTHERfrickER MY MONEY!
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17658 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:09 am to
How is NATO threatening? Was there a buildup of NATO troops on the border with Russia? Were there secret plans that got leaked, talking about how NATO, or the West are coming after Moscow?

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History has also taught us you do not provoke a nuclear power and threaten their boarders. NATO in 1995


Are we not doing that same exact thing with China as well? So why aren’t you crying about how we need to cool it in the South China Sea, at the risk of a confrontation with a nuclear power? Or what about North Korea? Why don’t you talk about how we need to cool it there too, because like you said, history says do not confront a nuclear power, and NK is a nuclear power.

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This very statement tells me you do not understand the Russians, not Putain, Russians. You should go watch Carlson's interview with the Polish President, he explains how Russia interprets NATO build up and what is most important to the Russian people. He knows them a hell of a lot better than any of us.


Yeah. Well Poland is kind of the ones leading the charge in Europe against Russia, so I’m not sure what your point here is. Poland is taking no chances and they aren’t going to subject themselves to Russian demands. You obviously have zero understanding of the Polish people, or government, especially when you’re talking about an interview from 2021. A lot has changed since and opinions have also changed.

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The problem is warhawk, neocons are supremely arrogant in their beliefs that Russia will never use nuclear weapons. They are wrong. They are projecting their beliefs onto Russians. Because they would never use them they assume Russian will not. That is a dangerous and stupid calculation.


I think the more dangerous and reckless action or mindset, is by threatening the use of nukes. That’s an extremely careless thing to do.

And I’m sure any US military, air defense system, or whoever, isn’t taking these threats with a grain of salt. US citizens may think Putin is just saber rattling, but you know damn well the US military is always ready for this possibility, and can’t afford to think of this as just saber rattling.

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This idea that Russia is going to try and march across Europe like Hitler did is a neocon, war monger's wet dream.


Who’s saying this? I for one never have. The goal is to reduce the US’s influence and power in Europe, particularly in areas that have historically been closer aligned to Russia. Putin wants Russia to be able to project power like the US has for the past 80 years.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2373 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:16 am to
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“This is all your fault Zelensky!! Russia invaded your country and this is your fault!! How dare you try to defend yourself??”

Trump isn’t as stupid as yall are.


Russia invaded Ukraine 2.5 years ago. If this were solely about Ukraine defending itself, then why was the use of long-range missiles not authorized within the first weeks of the war instead of 2.5 years into the war?

With the incoming administration already talking about peace agreements, it is a little suspicious when the outgoing administration suddenly authorizes weapon use that will clearly escalate the war.

Only an absolute moron would not be able to see the obvious effort By Democrats to prolong the war to benefit the MIC before Trump can come in and end it.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:21 am to
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Gatekeeping how a country defends itself from an evil world power.



Yeah, how'd that workout for Viet Nam?
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:53 am to
That little turd should be invited to the Whitehouse and arrested at the gates.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
7044 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:35 am to
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Weird seeing people get upset at Ukraine defending itself against an aggressor.

Your definition of ITSELF is different than mine. The only thing they are doing by ITSELF is burning through ammo supplied by the US and other countries and getting the Ukrainian citizens killed for no reason. They are also pretty good at stealing the money supplied by the US to run the country.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26665 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:50 pm to
How fricked are we when we have to hope the Russian leader shows restraint?

I sincerely hope this new administration declassifies every damn thing from UAPs to JFK, and cleans house.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19967 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:22 pm to
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We knew he was going to use them. We signed off on it


He doesnt have the capability to "use them". Our personnel operate them ( its not a squirt gun), our satellites guide them, and they are our weapons. In other words we just committed an act of war against a nuclear power.

They killed millions with a virus to keep Trump out of office, this is the next logical step, start ww3. .
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Weird seeing people get upset at Ukraine defending itself against an aggressor.


STFU, nerd.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:37 pm to
Figs should take their asses over there and fight if they support the war so much.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:40 pm to
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I asked a while ago while people appear to be openly rooting for Russia and this board didn't seem to comprehend the question.


I’m not rooting for Russia or Ukraine.

Doesn’t matter to me, it’s not our fight. Europe needs to be more involved if they’re that concerned, we need to stop wasting billions of $$ on it.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20216 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:45 pm to
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Weird seeing people get upset at Ukraine defending itself against an aggressor.
We pushed NATO down Russia’s throat.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:45 pm to
quote:


I asked a while ago while people appear to be openly rooting for Russia and this board didn't seem to comprehend the question.


We're not rooting for Russia. frick Russia and the Ukraine. Let them sort their own fricking shite out without billions of our tax dollars going there and without our unnecessary involvement starting WW fricking III. There is a long history leading up to this and NATO, U.S. and the Ukraine provoking Russia... not to mention breaking a promise/peace deal with Russia regarding NATO encroaching on its border.

But Putin "colluded" with OMB to get elected in 2016... So all the TDS figs think it's okay, based on that hoax, to send billions of dollars and weapons to the Ukraine and insert ourselves unnecessarily in a war that could escalate into world war. fricking great. But hey, at least the U.S. warhawks, corrupt warmonger politicians, BlackRock and defense industry companies are profiting from our tax dollars funding it.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14697 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:46 pm to
The deep state is trying to get a hot war started prior to Trump taking control.
Any one who saw Joe wondering around lost in the Brazil jungle yesterday, while World Leaders were gathering, should understand these or perilous times.
Joe is not controlling anything.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Our own govt has worse intentions for our country than putin


This... but come January, that shite is done. It's America First... frick the rest.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:51 pm to
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So if BRICS expands to Mexico or Cuba then we have the right to invade Mexico or Cuba?


If we made a deal with them decades ago, voiced what we perceived as that threat but they agreed not to do it... and then proceeded to do it anyway? Yeah, it might be considered enough of a threat and act of aggression to do something about it.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Keep on Culting, dipshit.


"Culting"

Keep sucking that MIC Deep State dick, f a g. I hope your kid gets sent to war there first.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
20229 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Joe is not controlling anything.

He never was.. But if they will go to these lengths to potentially start WW3, Trump needs to hide a bunker on Mars until January 20th
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4970 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:07 pm to
You drank all the mainstream kool-aid


Russia is not out enemy. Our enemy is the same enemy since 1776. Our enemy is The City of London.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

How is NATO threatening? Was there a buildup of NATO troops on the border with Russia? Were there secret plans that got leaked, talking about how NATO, or the West are coming after Moscow? quote: History has also taught us you do not provoke a nuclear power and threaten their boarders. NATO in 1995 Are we not doing that same exact thing with China as well? So why aren’t you crying about how we need to cool it in the South China Sea, at the risk of a confrontation with a nuclear power? Or what about North Korea? Why don’t you talk about how we need to cool it there too, because like you said, history says do not confront a nuclear power, and NK is a nuclear power. quote: This very statement tells me you do not understand the Russians, not Putain, Russians. You should go watch Carlson's interview with the Polish President, he explains how Russia interprets NATO build up and what is most important to the Russian people. He knows them a hell of a lot better than any of us. Yeah. Well Poland is kind of the ones leading the charge in Europe against Russia, so I’m not sure what your point here is. Poland is taking no chances and they aren’t going to subject themselves to Russian demands. You obviously have zero understanding of the Polish people, or government, especially when you’re talking about an interview from 2021. A lot has changed since and opinions have also changed. quote: The problem is warhawk, neocons are supremely arrogant in their beliefs that Russia will never use nuclear weapons. They are wrong. They are projecting their beliefs onto Russians. Because they would never use them they assume Russian will not. That is a dangerous and stupid calculation. I think the more dangerous and reckless action or mindset, is by threatening the use of nukes. That’s an extremely careless thing to do. And I’m sure any US military, air defense system, or whoever, isn’t taking these threats with a grain of salt. US citizens may think Putin is just saber rattling, but you know damn well the US military is always ready for this possibility, and can’t afford to think of this as just saber rattling. quote: This idea that Russia is going to try and march across Europe like Hitler did is a neocon, war monger's wet dream. Who’s saying this? I for one never have. The goal is to reduce the US’s influence and power in Europe, particularly in areas that have historically been closer aligned to Russia. Putin wants Russia to be able to project power like the US has for the past 80 years.


All of that nonsense you typed, you could’ve just saved time and admitted you have no clue what you’re talking about
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