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re: i heard someone say "vote red for freedom"
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:32 am to alabamabuckeye
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:32 am to alabamabuckeye
not exactly sure of the relevance of that meme in general, in this thread, or as a reply to me. you'll have to explain it.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:33 am to UtahCajun
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Yes, but smoking is regulated on the state level.
perhaps guns are too since no one has restricted Louisianians like indiana apparently.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:33 am to McLemore
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can we agree that taking away the right to smoke is a freedom a person should have?
Wut?
it ain't rocket science.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:33 am to oldcharlie8
Pick your own doctor....
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:34 am to oldcharlie8
quote:It's mostly to steal our tax money by abusing our welfare systems. Which means higher taxes, higher costs, and more inflation (yet another tax), and thus...less freedom.
i'm certainly a fan of protecting the border. however, do you think that these people are trying to come here to take over the country like we did to the native americans or do you think that it's mostly to leave their poverty restricted homeland?
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:36 am to oldcharlie8
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perhaps guns are too since no one has restricted Louisianians like indiana apparently
All it takes is the right court case for firearms.
Not so much for smoking
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:37 am to oldcharlie8
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country like we did to the native americans or do you think that it's mostly to leave their poverty restricted homeland?
The entire premise of this question is absurd. What “country” did the NAs have? And if you think that anyone who is in poverty should be allowed in our country, I hate to break it to you, but you support open borders.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:37 am to oldcharlie8
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wait.......someone forced you to get vax'd?
Oh fricking stop it. This whole line of argument is retarded. If you threaten people's ability to take care of their family in order to get them to do something and you then say it's a choice you're a fricking piece of shite. And even you don't believe it because if we tried that with you on some different subject you damn sure would not feel like you're having a choice. So just fricking stop it you're being pathetic and dishonest
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:37 am to oldcharlie8
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can we agree that taking away the right to smoke is a freedom a person should have?
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it ain't rocket science.
Indeed.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:37 am to PBnJ
That’s what charity is for. Not the government.
The government has overreached for decades to the point some think it’s the taxpayer responsibility.
It is NOT.
That is the purpose of charities and faith based community efforts. Donations take care of this need.
Christians donate money and time. The government should not be mandated to act as a charity.
The Bible is clear about laziness and sloth. Not working isn’t okay in the Bible.
The Bible is also clear about immigration and abiding by the laws.
What accountability do you assign to countries that push their less desirable to migrate?
If you think it’s justified and wanna give up the country that was built and rebuilt via taxpayers, then let’s fight for it again. Let’s see how that plays out vs this soft invasion.
The Bible is clear on justifiable war as well.
The government has overreached for decades to the point some think it’s the taxpayer responsibility.
It is NOT.
That is the purpose of charities and faith based community efforts. Donations take care of this need.
Christians donate money and time. The government should not be mandated to act as a charity.
The Bible is clear about laziness and sloth. Not working isn’t okay in the Bible.
The Bible is also clear about immigration and abiding by the laws.
What accountability do you assign to countries that push their less desirable to migrate?
If you think it’s justified and wanna give up the country that was built and rebuilt via taxpayers, then let’s fight for it again. Let’s see how that plays out vs this soft invasion.
The Bible is clear on justifiable war as well.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:38 am to oldcharlie8
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i'm certainly a fan of protecting the border. however, do you think that these people are trying to come here to take over the country like we did to the native americans or do you think that it's mostly to leave their poverty restricted homeland?
So you have zero ideas of why Europeans came here or the history of mass migration?
Bruh....
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:38 am to oldcharlie8
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perhaps guns are too since no one has restricted Louisianians like indiana apparently.
Again, show me where smoking, helmets, seatbelts, or any other arbitrary example you may provide are in our founding documents?
It’s apple and oranges, and if you can’t admit that, you are either trolling (likely) or you need a basic civics class
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:39 am to oldcharlie8
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i don't. i remember having a choice. i wasn't vax'd
There were thousands of troops booted from the military for refusing the vax. Same for other government workers. Further, anti-vax people in the private sector were fired and discriminated against with the blessing of the dimocrats in government. Meanwhile, y’all opened the floodgates at the border and showed 0 concern whether those aliens were vaxed or not (or were carrying some other kinds of diseases).
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:39 am to oldcharlie8
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to come here to take over the country like we did to the native americans or do you think that it's mostly to leave their poverty restricted homeland?
More akin to the former, but those aren’t mutually exclusive conditions. Also, we have the power to fight the attackers. The savages did not and therefore their inferior violent stone-age culture was overcome.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:39 am to oldcharlie8
Moderate charlie, what does “protecting the border” actually mean to you?
If someone receives a final denial after their immigration claim and appeals are resolved, should they be required to leave? What should happen if they refuse?
Wanting a better life is understandable. It doesn’t answer either question. Give us an actual enforcement policy you support, because “I support protecting the border” needs to mean something beyond sounding good before the “however.”
If someone receives a final denial after their immigration claim and appeals are resolved, should they be required to leave? What should happen if they refuse?
Wanting a better life is understandable. It doesn’t answer either question. Give us an actual enforcement policy you support, because “I support protecting the border” needs to mean something beyond sounding good before the “however.”
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:41 am to oldcharlie8
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no. they won't come for guns. most dems i know are christian.
Are you being an example of a clueless voter?
So them saying they will not come for guns after their decades long history of trying to do exactly that is good for you?
Are Talarico's church people Christians?
I don't under how posting stupidity is a big "win".
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:44 am to McLemore
ol Moderate charlie is nope'ing his way out this thread with the quickness.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:48 am to oldcharlie8
Where do we start? Seeing that you guys can't articulate one freedom you lose when red's in power, let me articulate the freedoms you lose when blue's in power:
1. We lose the freedom to control our own border. You dumbasses just let the world in: terrorists, murderers, rapists, and everybody else taking up all the housing and using up all the resources. Having a safe border is a freedom I lose.
2. I lose the freedom to walk the streets because your activist judges let everybody go with no bail, and then they go out there to commit more crimes and murder more people. I lose the freedom to feel safe in my own neighborhood.
3. I lose the ability to have my tax dollars stay in the United States and go to people and functions that could really use them, because you funnel it all through USAID back to yourselves.
4. Freedom of speech: you already did it last time you were in power, and everybody that wrote or said anything you didn't like got canceled.
5. Gun ownership: oh, there's a good one. Look at what it did for Europe. You guys want abortion on demand up to the moment of birth and taking away guns, so I lose my ability to protect myself and my family, and to protect myself from you guys who are going to be my overlords taking my property and 401k.
I could go on for about an hour and a half. You are a horrible bunch of people, and if you get in power, we are going to lose everything, including our ability to govern ourselves, because the government is going to be telling everybody what to do. Socialism is on the way.
1. We lose the freedom to control our own border. You dumbasses just let the world in: terrorists, murderers, rapists, and everybody else taking up all the housing and using up all the resources. Having a safe border is a freedom I lose.
2. I lose the freedom to walk the streets because your activist judges let everybody go with no bail, and then they go out there to commit more crimes and murder more people. I lose the freedom to feel safe in my own neighborhood.
3. I lose the ability to have my tax dollars stay in the United States and go to people and functions that could really use them, because you funnel it all through USAID back to yourselves.
4. Freedom of speech: you already did it last time you were in power, and everybody that wrote or said anything you didn't like got canceled.
5. Gun ownership: oh, there's a good one. Look at what it did for Europe. You guys want abortion on demand up to the moment of birth and taking away guns, so I lose my ability to protect myself and my family, and to protect myself from you guys who are going to be my overlords taking my property and 401k.
I could go on for about an hour and a half. You are a horrible bunch of people, and if you get in power, we are going to lose everything, including our ability to govern ourselves, because the government is going to be telling everybody what to do. Socialism is on the way.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:49 am to prplngldtigr
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The Bible is clear on justifiable war as well.
Unfortunate for Trump that he’s costing the taxpayers billions between his shenanigans with Israel and Strait of Hormuz, but God forbid the American people want our money spent on free school lunches instead of unnecessary military conflict.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:51 am to Klark Kent
ya;ll are dealing with a democrat dingbat/troll.
check his post history. he always comes here every now and then and gets owned.
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