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re: I have a hard time believing people are this dumb....

Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:23 pm to
Staged
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:33 pm to
Unions are a major contributor to the ridiculous price of vehicles. Everyone wants to pay $50,000 for a vehicle that’s really only worth $30,000. They had their place many years ago but not today with all the government regulations. No wonder their membership has been declining for decades.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:39 pm to
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quote: Not true, at least not with union baws. Most I know are Democrats, die hard Democrats. Unions are the favored means of spreading left wing politics through the working class.


My experience, too. You’d assume they’d be right-wing because they hint and fish or whatever, but one glimpse at their social media or a conversation at a bar during campaign season… yeah you see their true colors. Gotta protect that cushy job before all else.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:15 pm to
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Most I know are Democrats, die hard Democrats.

Unions are the favored means of spreading left wing politics through the working class.


Yep.

Back when I was on the railroad guys you wouldn't think could possibly be democrats were hard core dem voters.

All because they think the dems are the reason for their high paying jobs. And that is all they consider when voting. Nothing else.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:17 pm to
Believe it!
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50429 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Unions are a major contributor to the ridiculous price of vehicles. Everyone wants to pay $50,000 for a vehicle that’s really only worth $30,000. They had their place many years ago but not today with all the government regulations. No wonder their membership has been declining for decades.



Labor is actually only about 7% of the cost. There is a reason so much has been automated.

Which cost the UAW thousands and thousands of jobs. Along with foreign competition let in freely to compete. It's a shell of what it was years ago but the smooth brain membership doesn't seem to see that.

For your opinion to be true the foreign brands assembled in the US would/could be many thousands cheaper than the domestics, but they are not
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Along with foreign competition let in freely to compete


Would not have been a problem if UAW built quality products. Toyota and Honda proved you didn't need union workers to built a good car and it made the union obsolete.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20295 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:42 pm to
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I have a hard time believing people are this dumb....


Dems/Leftists exist…I believe!
Posted by Csmims
Orange Beach Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:46 pm to
Spoken like a true union man. But please go on with your nonsense.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:48 pm to
He is one haha
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:02 pm to
I see you have been indoctrinated.

Your job can move to a right to work state or, as Ford did it decades ago .......put taco benders in Mexico to work while they shuttered your workplace.

You have no protection.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105546 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:07 pm to
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Because the democrats keep saying 'Trump is gonna take away your social security and medicare!'


What election has there not been democrats making the SS and Medicare scare?
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
28066 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:11 pm to
That guy is like the Ronbois on here. Swear they voted for Trump 2 times, but will not this time, because . . . ., hell they cant even explain why at this point
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32506 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:17 pm to
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I have a hard time believing people are this dumb....
There is an average IQ. That means 50% of people are below that.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14227 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
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There should be mandatory IQ tests required to vote.

And, aside from the elderly on SS, you should be required to be a net contributor to the Federal treasury to vote in Federal elections. So, if you paid $1,500 in taxes, but got $12,000 in government benefits, then frick you. No voting.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 5:30 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50429 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:23 pm to
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Spoken like a true union man. But please go on with your nonsense.




I despise unions. Lost a good friend as he became a far left whackjob when he became a local chairman. Couldn't stand to discuss anything with him after that.

You and Pvt. Pyle can believe whatever lets you sleep at night.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:27 pm to
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Is this idiot so stupid...



...that you fell for a staged tik tok video. gimmie a break!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263158 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:27 pm to
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Would not have been a problem if UAW built quality products. Toyota and Honda proved you didn't need union workers to built a good car and it made the union obsolete.


Reagan tried to protect the union workers and automakers with quotas on Japanese cars and it backfired spectacularly. We got higher value Japanese cars (Lexus, etc) out of the deal.

Without the imports, we would have kept on making ultra shitty cars.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50429 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:27 pm to
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I see you have been indoctrinated.

Your job can move to a right to work state or, as Ford did it decades ago .......put taco benders in Mexico to work while they shuttered your workplace.

You have no protection.



Yep. The union agreements say any plant built in the US or Canada has to be UAW represented.

GM built 4 assembly plants in Mexico and Ford 3 after that agreement.

Those are just assembly plants. There are parts/powertrain plants there as well.

The only reason there are not more is political pressure.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50429 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 5:30 pm to
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Without the imports, we would have kept on making ultra shitty cars.




No....

There was a shite ton of cost cutting done in the 80s and 90s due to the crushing union contracts the Big Three signed after a prolonged strike in 1971.

They were paying more in pensions and healthcare than to the people actually putting the cars together.

The beancounters ruled the roost.
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