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re: I hate to say it, but I see zero pathway for victory in '24

Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:33 am to
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2312 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:33 am to
Speaking of WI being a part of the pathway to victory, Protasiewicz (left-leaning) Justice won yesterday for WI Supreme Court so the people of WI have spoken on where they currently stand politically. She beat the Republican Kelly. Women like their abortions. Can’t put a white Republican guy on the court anymore. That was discouraging to see.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8191 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:34 am to
DEMORALIZATION.

Very effective leftist/communist tactic.

You aren’t wrong in your assessment though. There are very real problems that have no solutions with the present construct.

Propaganda media and a weaponized judicial will be a great challenge to overcome.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:50 am
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7975 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:34 am to
The Democrats have been playing the long game for decades.. Losing to a few Reagans or Trumps is collateral damage but now they can roll out their masses of indoctrinated 20-30 year olds that have spent their lives in the liberal education system

Republican answer is always "well Romney or McCain would be better than a Democrat!"

This ship will take decades to turn and the GOP is holding a trolling motor
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26896 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:37 am to
We have to get support from more working poor and spoiled white women. The way to do that is through their pocketbook. The way to do that is by giving Biden permission to spend. The ensuing inflation will win votes.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:38 am to
quote:

Losing to a few Reagans or Trumps is collateral damage but now they can roll out their masses of indoctrinated 20-30 year olds that have spent their lives in the liberal education system
Agree

but a closer look shows that Reagan enabled that indoctrination using dumbing down of education
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:43 am to

This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21110 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:43 am to
It’s actually simple…

A clean election, Republicans would handily win in 2024.

Our actual tainted elections…Democrats will absolutely win.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53705 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:49 am to
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Economic issues used to be king, they are now down the line.


They are still the #1 issue for ALL voters, this is hiw the Dims have locked down hyge swaths of voters. Free shite
Posted by TomShelby
Member since Mar 2023
789 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:49 am to
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Trump has wayyy more swamp ties.


Yeah being backed by the bushes certainly proves your right

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Mike Pence was his damn VP.


Nikki Haley would be Rons cause Jeb says so
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17528 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:51 am to
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Nikki Haley would be Rons cause Jeb says so


The Nikki Haley that Trump nominated to be UN Ambassador?
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5597 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:53 am to
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I think DeSantis is the better candidate for places like GA, NV, AZ, and WI.


I don't disagree. But I like Trump taking the heat off of Big D until it's time to slingshot BDR shake n bake style after the summer of '24. Would Trump's ego allow this, probably not, but it could work if Trump is willing to play fullback when his internal numbers say Ron would edge these states that Trump will fall short...GA, NV, AZ and WI as you said.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26235 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:54 am to
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A majority of Biden voters said they voted absentee or by mail in the 2020 election (58%).

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Reflecting these differences, Trump performed much better among voters who cast their ballots in person on Election Day (65% for Trump vs. 33% for Biden). These shares were reversed among absentee and mail-in voters: 65% of absentee voters said they voted for Biden, compared with 33% who voted for Trump.

Until we can secure the legitimacy of mail in votes, future elections will continue to favor Democrats.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48376 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:57 am to
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We have to get support from more working poor and spoiled white women. The way to do that is through their pocketbook. The way to do that is by giving Biden permission to spend. The ensuing inflation will win votes.


People don't vote with their wallets anymore. This is what a lot of this board fails to understand. The left has successfully convinced millions of Americans to vote against their own self-interests. "Social causes" matter more to a lot of the electorate than the economy now.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35895 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:57 am to
It’ll swing back. Progressivism is becoming corporatized and blandly mainstream. Not to mention in champions losers and ineffectual people so it will inevitably fail.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476390 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:58 am to
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It’ll swing back.

It was on the path until Dobbs dropped a nuclear bomb on cultural issues in elections
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 7:58 am to
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We should have been in the streets yesterday marching and rioting all over the country


riots get people killed.

would you say after your riots that the deaths were worth it to show solidarity with the guy who covered up his adulterous flings (plural. one lasted 10 months). ny case is about filing false business records to cover up paying off for cover ups of adulteries. it was addressed right after the access Hollywood claim of pussy grabbing.

what is your follow up plan about the MAL docs case? more riots?
The MAL docs case is going to trial before NYC.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110895 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:11 am to
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You can blame HW because he really did not campaign all that much and you can use the swampiness bullshite of today all you want, but once the Democrats got the Presidency with Clinton they set about overhauling the bureaucracy in DC.


Correct. I was just address your blaming Clinton on Perot. HE (Perot) only gets a foothold by way of HW going back to old games of thinking he can play ball with the democrats and the electorate will just happily go along. If he doesn’t do that and go along with a tax hike, Perot has no in and we don’t get Clinton.

That was more HW’s fault than Perot’s.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35895 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:21 am to
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It was on the path until Dobbs dropped a nuclear bomb on cultural issues in elections


What is it about soy that makes people indulge in hyperbole?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:32 am to
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I am not sure how it's a good thing for uninformed and unengaged people to be taking part in the process.


even with mail about half did not vote 2020.
70% register.
and of those who register under 70% of them voted.
.7 x .7 = .49.

so you've identified the throng who are not even lurking on this board.

the tenor of the thread is bemoaning young people and woman leaning blue.

what is the appeal of the republican party to the under 35? no abortion drugs? no free college?
fail to increase the social security tax up to income of 300k so its solvent? or raise retirement to 68? something besides offering to bet it on.markets.
threaten to end obamacare with no debate on a new plan?
prisons for profit?
toll roads?


whatever you say it is isn't the topic of threads. no oxygen for the clarity to describe your future world.
instead people are fixated on trump. pro or con.

I don't see the point of supporting trump when the MAL docs case is looming at the least and quite possibly a j6 case about the (what seems to many) attempted coup.

in any other campaign not one serious candidate runs when facing real legal issues. many suspect his early entry was mostly to avoid prosecutors." oh look, they are political witch hunting. "

I agree. they are in fact political witch hunting.
that's because
the coup attempt was political. admit it was a coup attempt and move on from trump so the nation can heal.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:40 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55241 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:34 am to
Even though I believe that Biden will win Re-election, I will in spite of that vote for the GOP candidate for POTUS.
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