re: I hate NY

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12 downvotes... but nobody responds or offers any evidence to the contrary.

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NYC had a net out migration of more than 130K 2020-2021. That's NET which obviously means a lot more than 130K left.

Their net migration has been negative for quite some time.

According to the NYC comptroller, Florida is the #20 location they are going.

Until city-states become a thing, this will be a problem.

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People from New York is what flipped Georgia from Red to Blue.

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Ballot harvesting and corrupt politicians “flipped” Georgia.

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Eh, New York has a lot going for it

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From my perspective, the best thing NY has going for it is that NY is up THERE and not down here.

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Eh, New York has a lot going for it


From my perspective, the best thing NY has going for it is that NY is up THERE and not down here.

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NYC has tons going for it, despite its corrupt and broken govt.
Its a one party city, so there are zero checks and balances.
But it is also the bastion of capitalism, where many of the best and brightest from around the world.
It is dirty, corrupt, expensive as hell, and crowded. But it is still full of opportunity and vigor.

And, by the way, contrary to popular belief, it is RELATIVELY safe, and doesn't even crack the top 20 most violent cities in the U.S. :

St. Louis, MO (2,082)
Detroit, MI (2,057)
Baltimore, MD (2,027)
Memphis, TN (2,003)
Little Rock, AR (1,634)
Milwaukee, WI (1,597)
Rockford, IL (1,588)
Cleveland, OH (1,557)
Stockton, CA (1,415)
Albuquerque, NM (1,369)
Springfield, MO (1,339)
Indianapolis, IN (1,334)
Oakland, CA (1,299)
San Bernardino, CA (1,291)
Anchorage, AK (1,203)
Nashville, TN (1,138)
Lansing, MI (1,136)
New Orleans, LA (1,121)
Minneapolis, MN (1,101)
Chicago, IL (1,099)

Kind of like the 996 work schedule in China, there are people that feel they absolutely can't avoid working in NYC to succeed at whatever it is they think they want to do.

I presume you're counting murder numbers, but that doesn't include people shoved onto subway tracks (which doesn't seem to happen anywhere outside of NYC, and SF at nearly the same rate.) How many Vietnamese got brained with a baseball bat in New Orleans in 2022?

There are always tradeoffs, but working in NYC, your "escape routes" are NJ and CT (maybe Long Island, but still under corrupt state rule and subject to NYC tax policies on income, etc). Which also suffer from one party rule, and are corrupt and expensive as hell. At least if you work in Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, or Indianapolis you can reasonably live in an adjacent county and be shielded from much of that madness. You don't have a choice working in NYC.

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I presume you're counting murder numbers

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No, violent crime.
And yes, there are many homeless/mentally handicapped people that the cops aren't allowed to help unless they are an imminent danger to others, and it is primarily these individuals involved in pushing people off the train platforms (keep in mind, as horrible as it is, it has happened two or maybe three times in the last several years, but it does grab the headlines).

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At least if you work in Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, or Indianapolis you can reasonably live in an adjacent county

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That's actually the case in NYC as well. Putnam, Suffolk, Orange counties all vote red.

I know cops aren't allowed to do anything. Due to laws passed by the people elected by the city, and more importantly, the state.

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That's actually the case in NYC as well. Putnam, Suffolk, Orange counties all vote red.

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So they're all allowed to hire un-vaxxed nurses?

That's a rhetorical question, of course.

Glad you can tolerate it, but there's no way I would. It's reminiscent of people that live in greater New Orleans but swear it's OK, because their block is safe.

On the plus side for Florida, there are a ton of Orthodox Jews making their way to the area, and they for sure do not vote like the people on the West Palm Beach School Board do.

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The wokesters have turned the greatest city in the worlds into a shithole

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Uh, Tammany Hall much?

NYC ebbs and flows, and only manages to survive (unlike Detroit, Baltimore, Minneapolis, etc.,) because it is the subject of songs, folklore, and pride.

Similar to Brexit where a ton of companies and people threatened to move to Frankfurt or Dublin, they... didn't. The hubris associated with living/working in London was too strong, much the same with NYC I suppose.