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I hate it, but burning the American flag is covered by the the 1st amendment, right?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:07 pm
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:09 pm to GumboPot
Yes, but don't burn a Pride flag unless you want to be charged with a hate crime.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:09 pm to GumboPot
What does "nenarded" mean?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:12 pm to GumboPot
Amendment time it is then!
Also, do you really think the Dims give a shite aboot the constitution? (Answer: ONLY when it benefits them!)
Also, do you really think the Dims give a shite aboot the constitution? (Answer: ONLY when it benefits them!)
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 3:59 am
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:13 pm to GumboPot
starting a fire in a public place isnt covered
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:14 pm to GumboPot
I think burning your own American flag in a certain context could bring inciting a riot charges.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:14 pm to hogcard1964
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What does "nenarded" mean?
A person that is so retarded that in order for them to be told they are a retard it must be said in their own language.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:16 pm to hogcard1964
I looked it up.
A website called nenarded.com popped up.
Went to website and found the following picture.
A website called nenarded.com popped up.
Went to website and found the following picture.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:17 pm to GumboPot
Look, if it's a hate crime to leave your tire tracks on a gay crosswalk, burning the American flag is worse than that.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:20 pm to GumboPot
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I hate it, but burning the American flag is covered by the the 1st amendment, right?
Absolutely covered by the 1st Amendment to burn your OWN American flag if you so chose. You can't however, go around tearing down other flags or burning them, that's destruction of property.
If you burn the American flag for these stupid arse reasons, you are just "flagging" yourself as a far left Liberal Socialist wacko...but you do you Karen
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:20 pm to hogcard1964
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What does "nenarded" mean?
The irony of lecturing people about being able to burn a flag while being afraid to use an actual word shouldn't be lost here.
He's right. You can't be arrested for burning a flag.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:22 pm to GumboPot
Yes, BUT specific carve outs can be made as has been done with the second amendment and red flag laws, etc.
I don't necessarily like it, but sometimes things become issues that the forefathers may have never thought would be possible. Making adjustments should be possible in such circumstances. Someone that is a harm to themselves let alone others should not have access to firearms, and freedom of speech should not extend to desecrating the flag of the country in which you live, are a citizen, are currently in, whatever it may be. Slippery slope? Maybe, but if you're in China you will die for burning their flag no matter who you are.
I don't necessarily like it, but sometimes things become issues that the forefathers may have never thought would be possible. Making adjustments should be possible in such circumstances. Someone that is a harm to themselves let alone others should not have access to firearms, and freedom of speech should not extend to desecrating the flag of the country in which you live, are a citizen, are currently in, whatever it may be. Slippery slope? Maybe, but if you're in China you will die for burning their flag no matter who you are.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:22 pm to GumboPot
unfortunately free speech includes the stuff I hate, so yeah burning flag (your own property, not stolen) should not land you in jail.
I guess there is an argument that you could be inciting something by doing it in public. I doubt there are that many people burning flags in the privacy of their own back yard
I guess there is an argument that you could be inciting something by doing it in public. I doubt there are that many people burning flags in the privacy of their own back yard
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:23 pm to IT_Dawg
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If you burn the American flag for these stupid arse reasons, you are just "flagging" yourself as a far left Liberal Socialist wacko...but you do you Karen
He’s not being a Karen; he’s being a patriot.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:24 pm to GumboPot
I’m glad libertarians are defending the important issues, like allowing liberals to burn the American flag
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:24 pm to EastWestConnection
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I guess there is an argument that you could be inciting something by doing it in public. I doubt there are that many people burning flags in the privacy of their own back yard
Right. They could face charges similar to what they would face if they burned a cardboard box in public. Now, the hate crime angle is a possibility.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:29 pm to GumboPot
Right on brand for Thomas Massie and the other malcontents who prop him up as some sort of libertarian champion of the Constitution. It’s going to be very gratifying to see Massie go down in flames next year.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:30 pm to EastWestConnection
quote:Yep. That's the whole point. No need for an amendment protecting speech that's universally popular.
unfortunately free speech includes the stuff I hate,
If they violate other laws in the course of burning the flag charge them with violating those laws.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:31 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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I’m glad libertarians are defending the important issues, like allowing liberals to burn the American flag
What about burning the Ukrainian flag? Would a that run afoul of the administration’s foreign policy and be national security issue?
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:32 pm to GumboPot
Right, and if you go by what the order says versus what Mr. Massie says, you will see the truth.
From the White House web site on Presidential actions;
PROSECUTING BURNING OF THE AMERICAN FLAG
For the full order, check out the link below.
White House website
From the White House web site on Presidential actions;
PROSECUTING BURNING OF THE AMERICAN FLAG
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Notwithstanding the Supreme Court’s rulings on First Amendment protections, the Court has never held that American Flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to “fighting words” is constitutionally protected. See Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 408-10 (1989).
My Administration will act to restore respect and sanctity to the American Flag and prosecute those who incite violence or otherwise violate our laws while desecrating this symbol of our country, to the fullest extent permissible under any available authority.
Sec. 2. Measures to Combat Desecration of the American Flag. (a) The Attorney General shall prioritize the enforcement to the fullest extent possible of our Nation’s criminal and civil laws against acts of American Flag desecration that violate applicable, content-neutral laws, while causing harm unrelated to expression, consistent with the First Amendment. This may include, but is not limited to, violent crimes; hate crimes, illegal discrimination against American citizens, or other violations of Americans’ civil rights; and crimes against property and the peace, as well as conspiracies and attempts to violate, and aiding and abetting others to violate, such laws.
For the full order, check out the link below.
White House website
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