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re: I Got Rid of Tipping at My Restaurant to Fight Racism
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 am to redfishfan
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:14 am to redfishfan
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As somebody that waited tables for a time in college I would much rather work for 2.13 and tips than minimum wage and very little tips. A good waiter can rack up on tips if they do a good job.
There are certain places where waiters can make a solid middle-class living if they're good, and bartenders in college towns or high-income tourist destinations can make some serious money. It's a viable career if you can put up with the accompanying headaches, much like anything else.
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:18 am to blueboy
I like the European system. Pay waiters a living wage, and the customer has no implicit obligation to tip. If they really like the service, customers are free to throw in another 5-10% on top.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:15 am to redfishfan
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As somebody that waited tables for a time in college I would much rather work for 2.13 and tips than minimum wage and very little tips. A good waiter can rack up on tips if they do a good job.
This. When I was working and taking time off of college, it was nothing to make $150 on a Friday/Saturday night, working 4-5 hours. That was in a small conservative town. Some of my friends in Athens can pull $200-300 every Friday/Saturday night. Add in a nice restaurant in Atl or another big city and you can make some serious money.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:18 am to TxTiger82
Did wait tables back in the day --- college students are the worst ---- once a group of 16 students came in out of the 100 degree heat all wanting water, only one student placed a small order. I brought the order plus one water and sixteen straws. Students never,ever tip.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:20 am to blueboy
I tip but tipping is such a dumb business entity.
It's rooted in racism as well.
It's rooted in racism as well.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:22 am to blueboy
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Tipping, he explained, started after the Civil War when restaurants and the Pullman railroad company successfully petitioned the U.S. government to allow them not to pay their servers and instead ask customers to pay them tips. “Therefore, no one could say they were being enslaved,” he told podcast host Dan Pashman. “And no surprise, most of the people who were working in service professional jobs and restaurants and Pullman train cars were African-American.”
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:27 am to toddzilla
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And the church crowd. Those are some cheap bastards.
God only gets 10%. What makes you so special?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:51 am to blueboy
quote:Is there a law preventing this proprietor from paying his employees more?
On our menu right now it says, "We include a 20 percent service charge with checks so everybody in the restaurant makes a living wage."
Maybe he doesn't want to raise prices because people will stop eating there? That'd be my guess - food isn't worth the increased cost.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:11 pm to GumplandTiger
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When it was started, the tip was given at the beginning of the meal to guarantee the server treated your party correctly. When service started getting worse because the server hard already gotten paid, it naturally shifted to the end of the meal.
I never understood this. Why don't they get paid like every other member of the employed world?
Instead they essentially get a commission of the restaurant sales.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:33 pm to blueboy
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tells us about why it's so important to get rid of tipping in the restaurant industry in order to create a safe space and provide an opportunity for all restaurant workers to earn living wages
What a bunch of pussies.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:37 pm to blueboy
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Tipping started right after the end of slavery. It's basically a tool to keep control over people, to keep control over indentured servitude.
#fakenews
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:39 pm to StrongSafety
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I tip but tipping is such a dumb business entity.
It's rooted in racism as well
You don't want to tip and will use this as an excuse.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:42 pm to StrongSafety
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Tipping, he explained, started after the Civil War when restaurants and the Pullman railroad company successfully petitioned the U.S. government to allow them not to pay their servers and instead ask customers to pay them tips. “Therefore, no one could say they were being enslaved,” he told podcast host Dan Pashman. “And no surprise, most of the people who were working in service professional jobs and restaurants and Pullman train cars were African-American.”
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This is incorrect. I now know you didn't do anything more than read the quote in the HuffPo link. Congrats on not being too smart.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:22 pm to Gaspergou202
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So instead of getting the $45 employees you get those who will settle for $30
Are you telling me that you think there is someone who is worth $45 an hour to carry food?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:41 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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I guess it's known too that if somebody is gonna get stiffed it should be their own people, and maybe they are less apt to stiff them?
Black servers don't want the tables either, because it's hit or miss. For every table of black folks who will only tip black servers because screw whitey, there are just as many black tables who will only tip white servers because they want white people to serve them. It's a crap shoot.
After that, it's just black tables that don't tip at all.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:33 pm to imjustafatkid
I hate tipping. Just PRICE THE FOOD so that the owner can pay the workers what he thinks each one contributes to the success of the business, based on what the prevailing wage rates are in that area. That puts the owner in control of his labor force and he can pay each worker what that worker is worth to the business.
A pretty blond bimbo with big tits that is friendly and flirtatious but a bumbling server will still get a good tip. A coworker that is ugly as sin but works HIS/HER butt off will not get a tip as good as the bimbo. FACT. But the owner knows which one is the most valuable worker and will pay accordingly (hopefully).
A pretty blond bimbo with big tits that is friendly and flirtatious but a bumbling server will still get a good tip. A coworker that is ugly as sin but works HIS/HER butt off will not get a tip as good as the bimbo. FACT. But the owner knows which one is the most valuable worker and will pay accordingly (hopefully).
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:35 pm to blueboy
Meh. Tips are bullshite anyways.
I always tip well regardless of race or service quality (also in part to fight the stereotype ), but I wish more industries would do away with the practice altogether.
I always tip well regardless of race or service quality (also in part to fight the stereotype
), but I wish more industries would do away with the practice altogether.Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:46 pm to TxTiger82
European system is great. However, in the U.S business owners seem to follow the "lowest price minimally acceptable" principal when hiring lower skilled labor.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:07 pm to TxTiger82
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I like the European system. Pay waiters a living wage, and the customer has no implicit obligation to tip. If they really like the service, customers are free to throw in another 5-10% on top
I would disagree here. I live in Washington state. The minimum wage here is now $11 and servers are paid exactly that. There's none of this $2.13 bullshite. They make full minimum wage, plus tips. Most servers average $30 an hour and guess what- there are still plenty of a-hole servers and bad experiences.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 5:10 pm to blueboy
Are we sure this wasn't written by the 7 year old daughter?
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