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re: I am not understanding the uproar over the Pope

Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by Adajax
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Left wingers hate and despise Christianity to begin with. Whenever they gin up faux outrage over something religious, you just have to laugh at these people.


100%. Libs are only outraged because it allows them to attack Trump. The rest of the time the hate Catholics as religious zealots were get in the way of their secular, twisted ideology.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:43 pm to
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The words groomer and pedo get thrown around here a lot, but the Catholic Church was the real deal. They were molesting kids and hiding the molesters from prosecution. And those are the ones we know about. You have to assume the whole organization was filthy, probably still is.

Amen.
Posted by Gaspergou202
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:37 pm to
The fact that there are thousands of Protestant denominations exist when Christ created His church (singular) on Earth might be a good starting point in answering your question about the importance of the pope.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:43 pm to
So did many other religions including southern baptist Methodists and many more
Posted by SlayTime
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:46 pm to
The devout leftist will not tolerate an attempt at humor at the expense of their religious leaders. Religion means everything to leftists.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:48 pm to
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I understand catholics uproar who don’t read the bible
Tell me you've never been to Mass without telling me you've never been to Mass.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:51 pm to
True.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:43 am to
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My Protestant brothers may not like it, but the catholic “universal” church was the only Christian church until 500 years ago. Since then the Protestants (protestors against the church Jesus founded) have splintered into hundreds of different churches and various denominations that have their own varying belief systems and priorities. Those churches are rife with graft, salesman preachers, child molesters, openly gay and lesbian preachers, and full false teachings and heresy.
When you talk about the one Church of Jesus Christ, obviously you're referring to the governmental structure of the Roman Catholic Church, however Protestants don't believe that's what Jesus founded. Jesus founded one visible Church, made up of believers who join themselves publicly to a local congregation that is part of a larger expression of Christ's teachings. Denominations are a circumstance to organize differing secondary or tertiary beliefs, but the faithful Methodist and the faithful Presbyterian are still part of the one Church of Jesus Christ, even if we are separated in terms of organizational structure.

On the other hand, Catholics have a wide range of diversity of belief and practice, in regards to liturgy (Latin vs. common tongue) or even things like speaking in tongues (charismatic Catholics). You just hang your hat on the common belief in the Pope as the head of the Church and think that unifying government is the only expression of Christ's one Church. Protestants disagree, which is why we can assent to the Apostles Creed just as fervently as you do, even in terms of the one holy, catholic, and apostolic Church, because there is only one catholic (universal) Church of Jesus Christ, and it's made up of many faithful members.
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 8:24 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 12:45 am to
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The fact that there are thousands of Protestant denominations exist when Christ created His church (singular) on Earth might be a good starting point in answering your question about the importance of the pope.
The Pope gives a false sense of unity. There are still many varying practices and beliefs within Catholicism and that which is agreed upon isn't commonly enforced, which is why you have high-profile Catholics supporting things like abortion, transgenderism, and homosexuality without consequence.

Protestants believe there is only one visible Church of Jesus Christ, but there are many expressions of it, or many branches of the one tree.
Posted by Golfer1865
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:34 am to
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The only I can figure is you got diddled and can't come to terms with it.


Actually, it sounds like he has come to terms with it. He has an obvious bias against the Catholic church. I have to agree with him on that topic, although I've never been Catholic and I've never been diddled.
Posted by Golfer1865
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:57 am to
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Libs are only outraged because it allows them to attack Trump. The rest of the time the hate Catholics as religious zealots were get in the way of their secular, twisted ideology.


What the what?

Many Catholics are libs, and many libs are Catholic.
Posted by Furious
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Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:00 am to
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I understand catholics uproar who don’t read the bible and accept the dogma and pagan fallacies perpetuated by their faith.


You, sir. Need to find Jesus. The hate you spew is disgusting.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:03 am to
You not understanding the uproar over the pope is evidence of your stupidity think about what he represents and. What his stances were hopfully they get a real pope and not a puppet of Satan
Posted by FrankandBeans
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:21 am to
It’s more offensive for man to pretend that the Pope or any priest is a bridge to God and Forgiveness. There’s is but one way, Jesus.

Catholicism is nothing more than a less polarizing cult that is rooted upon men thinking they have power to forgive. It’s a bland ant slap in the face to what Jesus did at the cross. Priests, Popes, and Pharisees are all one and the same: detractors from being able to approach Jesus unashamed and boldly.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:53 am to
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Ok. Give me a scripture that supports a clergy and a laity. I’d like a scripture that supports the congregation/church being led by a ‘Pope’ rather than Jesus, the head of the congregation.



Former Catholic here, and I can assure you that Catholicism puts significantly more emphasis on Catholic tradition and the teachings of the denomination than scripture alone, and so the trust is placed much more so in the church and what comes from Rome over scripture by itself. The minute a Catholic does a deep dive into the word of God, and put their trust in what scripture says alone over what they’re being taught is the moment they will end up leaving the RCC, but as long as the emphasis is placed on the church to reconcile it with Catholic teachings somehow, you’re going nowhere. I’d say the same can be said for Protestant denominations as well that wildly deviate from doctrine that is found in scripture alone. When people get hungry enough they will seek it out for themselves. If not, the will keep their trust placed firmly in what the denomination teaches alone, be it the RCC, Name it and Claim it, Tulip doctrine Calvinism, or other . You know them because they always add to grace, which in turn takes the spotlight off of Jesus alone, and puts it on self through works or other qualifiers, fruit inspectors, or money, or self help or whatever.

While Christ has already established His church and set the captives free. Religion in general has a hold upon people’s hearts and minds and is doing the same thing they’ve always done through things that they add to, remove, or distort with scripture to keep people in the doors and dependent upon them rather than Christ alone for their salvation. The Pharisees did it whilst Christ walked the earth through their traditions of men, and so do Christian churches today.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:41 am to
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Former Catholic here, and I can assure you that Catholicism puts significantly more emphasis on Catholic tradition and the teachings of the denomination than scripture alone, and so the trust is placed much more so in the church and what comes from Rome over scripture by itself. The minute a Catholic does a deep dive into the word of God, and put their trust in what scripture says alone over what they’re being taught is the moment they will end up leaving the RCC,


There is so much wrong here. As a former Methodist and a convert to Catholicism, I have found the Catholic Church very much emphasizes scripture. You should listen to the Bible in a Year with Father Mike Schmitz, and/or read Rome Sweet Home. The Catholic Church is far from perfect, (nothing run by man is), but at its core it is centered on Christ and scripture.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 9:56 am to
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There is so much wrong here. As a former Methodist and a convert to Catholicism, I have found the Catholic Church very much emphasizes scripture. You should listen to the Bible in a Year with Father Mike Schmitz, and/or read Rome Sweet Home. The Catholic Church is far from perfect, (nothing run by man is), but at its core it is centered on Christ and scripture.


Works is not faith in Christ alone for your salvation, which is the only prerequisite for salvation. They are filthy rags before a perfect and righteous God, the price for which only what could be paid for through the perfect blood of Christ alone. Man interjects himself and his righteousness into everything, even that which is a free gift through faith in Jesus alone, and when he does, he takes glory away from Christ. It is either or… either Jesus alone or another savior is added. If it’s works then judgement will come from the law, which is impossible for man to live by, which was the point of the law, to educate on sin and the need for someone to save us. It is why Christ came and paid the price due on our behalf, those who accepted that free gift alone. If it’s in Christ alone, and nothing else, then the price is paid, and righteousness is found in Christ, not ourselves.

Posted by Nole Man
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 10:16 am to
I'm not Catholic, but I went to a Catholic High School, and I understand the importance of the Vatican, the role the Pope plays in the religion. The Pope holds a central and sacred role in Catholicism. He is considered the spiritual leader of the global Catholic Church and the successor to Saint Peter, who was one of Jesus' closest disciples and the first bishop of Rome.

This is a very sacred time for them. They just lost the Pope, and they are now about to pick his successor.

Having an AI generated image of him as Pope, then having the White House account retweet and amplify it, is a trivialization of the papacy especially during a time of mourning for Pope Francis. Deeply disrespectful and an affront to his legacy.

Why would the President of the United States choose to do something like that?
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 10:25 am to
It shows you all you need to know that the Council of Bishops got so upset about an AI generated photo of Trump as pope but the same Council of Bishops doesn’t ever seem to care about child molesting priests. The Vatican is completely corrupt. There are many good Catholics but there are not many good Bishops and fewer good Cardinals.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 10:34 am to
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I understand catholics uproar who don’t read the bible and accept the dogma and pagan fallacies perpetuated by their faith.

This is definitely a thread created in a genuine effort to foment rational discourse and discussion.
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