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re: I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:18 pm to jimmy the leg
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:18 pm to jimmy the leg
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They are generally removed (as in "not retained") before becoming tenured. If a tenured teacher is fired, the reason is typically in the news.
Right, if you included the "not retained" teachers then yes it is a lot more common. But that's not what I am talking about.
Tenuring was way too easy/automatic a process compared to say college tenure. It is supposedly more difficult now in Louisiana, but that is really still being worked out.
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:22 pm to Dawgfanman
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Would I get to work only 2/3rd the hours and be virtually guaranteed of never being fired?
So you'd cut 66% of your current salary in order to work 66% of your current hours?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:25 pm to BigJim
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Right, if you included the "not retained" teachers then yes it is a lot more common. But that's not what I am talking about.
The vast majority of LA public school teachers work on a one year contract. Whether you call it a "firing" or "non-renewal" or "not retained" is all a matter of nomenclature.
In "legal" terms, schools only list a "firing" if it happens mid-contract. Which does happen, but yes, it is rare. Generally because it's really damn hard to hire a replacement teacher mid-contract, and it really messes with the students. So the teacher has to be just god awful.
It happened one time when I was in high school. We had an English teacher, first year at the school, who was just abysmal. Never taught us anything in class, took weeks to grade papers, never returned parent phone calls, etc. When we went to her class the Monday after Thanksgiving break, the principal was standing by the desk and once class began, told us that "it didn't work out" for the school to have that teacher, and we would get a new one "soon". We had a sub teacher until after we got back from Christmas. They hired a new teacher during Christmas break, we had her the rest of the year. New teacher meant new style, new rules, etc. We adjusted but it was a PITA.
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It is supposedly more difficult now in Louisiana, but that is really still being worked out.
It's tied to evals. Evals are half objective and half based on test scores. There seems to be a HUGE issue with evals... a lot of principals and APs just give every teacher the highest mark, because giving less than that requires more paperwork.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:25 pm to pizzatiger
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So you'd cut 66% of your current salary in order to work 66% of your current hours?
I haven’t said that at all. I don’t make tripple the average teacher and neither does the average college grad. I was responding to the “let’s compare apples to apples” comments. Teachers earn a decent salary, when considering they work significantly less hours than most, have a better retirement, get more holidays off, get cheaper benefits, and almost never get fired or laid off. Play your bullshite word games, but that’s my stance.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:28 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:29 pm to pizzatiger
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But would she work for the same money in a failing school system?
In Alabama the answer is no, because Birmingham City Schools pays more than any other system in the state. They have no problem attracting teachers to their system.
ETA: The reality is that failing schools go hand-in-hand with high-poverty areas, and schools with that distinction have more funding because almost all federal funding is based on poverty level.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:33 pm to the808bass
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:33 pm to Dawgfanman
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when considering they work significantly less hours than most, have a better retirement, get more holidays off, get cheaper benefits, and almost never get fired or laid off
Don't forget never having to pay for after school care because you work the same hours as your kids go to school.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:35 pm to Walter Kovacs
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Don't forget never having to pay for after school care because you work the same hours as your kids go to school.
My kids go to school 830 - 330. My wife has to be at her school (not the same one the kids attend) 700 - 300. She picks them up on the way home. However, we pay for them to go to before-school care, because I get to work by 730.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:39 pm to jimmy the leg
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Then Mississippi has it better than Louisiana, because this cannot be done here...at least not fully (not even remotely close to fully actually).
"Better" is subjective. Some states have full pension plans and the teachers do not pay into social security. It makes sense that those teachers would not receive social security benefits.
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:41 pm to LSUFanHouston
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My kids go to school 830 - 330. My wife has to be at her school (not the same one the kids attend) 700 - 300. She picks them up on the way home. However, we pay for them to go to before-school care, because I get to work by 730.
You can't drop off at school before 7:30? That sucks man. Every school around here has 7am dropoff.
ETA: Never even heard of "before-school care." I'm not sure that even exists here.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Paying a 3rd grade teacher 64K a year with a masters degree is really on the high end.
Some area school districts in St. Louis and what year they would hit $64k with a masters.
Parkway School District, Ladue: year 13
St Louis Public, Kirkwood, Pattonville: 14
Rockwood, Lindbergh: 16
Wentzville: 18
I got bored.
What’s more, Missouri requires teachers to get their masters to continue renewing their teaching license.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:47 pm to the808bass
So this is another thread that the Poli board claims they know how to teach and lies how much money and time they spend raising their kids?
Or is this where the Poli board claims they care but all teachers are idiots?
Or is this where the Poli board claims they care but all teachers are idiots?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:49 pm to sms151t
Yeah. And a couple teachers show up to claim it’s alchemy and they make $4/day and work 3000 hrs/wk.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:49 pm to Walter Kovacs
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It makes sense that those teachers would not receive social security benefits.
But what if I paid into SSI?
The answer...frick me.
It is what it is, but who ever said life is fair.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:52 pm to jimmy the leg
If you’ve paid enough units into Social Security, you will receive benefits. I believe it’s based on quarters of work.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:52 pm to the808bass
I make about 38k work in Title 1 school as was transferred there to “fix it”. But hey let the Poli board solve the issues since it knows the issues in education
I don’t get paid enough but it’s the career I choose. I hate DoE but ehh
We have no union so out Principal can get rid of us
But the Poli Board knows all about Education, but ehh let them try
I don’t get paid enough but it’s the career I choose. I hate DoE but ehh
We have no union so out Principal can get rid of us
But the Poli Board knows all about Education, but ehh let them try
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:53 pm to Walter Kovacs
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You can't drop off at school before 7:30? That sucks man. Every school around here has 7am dropoff.
Elementary school dropoff starts at 8:05.
Several of the daycares around here do it. Then the school bus picks them up at the daycare.
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:55 pm to the808bass
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If you’ve paid enough units into Social Security, you will receive benefits. I believe it’s based on quarters of work.
Not fully, if you are also getting a public pension.
Google Government Pension Offset
Posted on 6/20/19 at 2:55 pm to sms151t
Are you SSD?
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