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re: Hungary has fallen: Viktor Orbán concedes to Péter Magyar

Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:42 pm to
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Stand by for the third-world and Islamic invasion. Because it’s coming.



Yes, I am sure a migrant is going to aim for Hungary, with one of the weaker economies in the EU, rather than Western Europe, which wants workers. Maybe Orban would have won if not for the anemic growth the last few years.
Posted by John somers
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:42 pm to
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Why do you hate the people standing up to corrupt puppets of Putin?


Blah blah Trump Russia Hoax etc.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:43 pm to
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Dummy, read my post. Orban had supermajorities in the Fourth and Fifth governments under tenure and an hard-right party tabled a bill that would put EU membership under another referendum. The bill was tabled 6 years ago. Why didn't Orban pursue leaving the EU then?

Also, being in the EU means that the EU has within its rights to withholds funds from members, as I believe they did for states in 2011, 2014, 2017 and 2018. They started Article 7 procedures for Hungary in 2018. Again, why didn't Orban use that moment of Euroscepticism to leave the union?


You think the EU was gonna give Hungary its own $ if they left? Give them a credit against the exit costs?

And you call me a dummy...
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:44 pm to
Naw Chucklenuts you truly feel sorry for Swallowswell.

You aren't kidding anyone.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:44 pm to
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Lol. Why is Hungary in the EU at all then?


That's a great question. There aren't any discernible benefits.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:49 pm to
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Damn, flew JD all the way out there for nothing


The anti-Midas touch

So much winning.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:54 pm to
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You think the EU was gonna give Hungary its own $ if they left? Give them a credit against the exit costs?


You unbelievable retard. You aren't answering my question. And the amount the EU withheld (which can't be right, as the number is way too small to actually affect things) from was tiny in comparison to the 6.5 billion it withheld in 2022, in the form of grants and direct investment. And Orban certainly wasn't shy about asking the EU for a second loan in 2011, after having already taken a 6 billion loan from the EU in 2008. The first time Hungary ever paid more into the EU (as in, became a net contributor) was pretty recently, if I recall, and it only happened one year, but I might be misremembering that.

So again, answer the question. He had the opportunity to leave the EU before funds were frozen. He had supermajorities, a bill tabled for a potential referendum, and the ability to pass a constitutional amendment ensuring the measure. Why didn't he pursue it?

Also I'm not sure where you are getting 20 million from. The EU has frozen 17 billion of the 27 billion funds allocated.
This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:55 pm to
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hat's a great question. There aren't any discernible benefits.


Lol. There are massive benefits for a landlocked country of less than 10 million in Eastern Europe.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:56 pm to
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. There aren't any discernible benefits.


Holy fricking shite. This may be your masterpiece.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 3:59 pm to
Yeah the only reason anyone is even talking about Hungary is that they are interrupting EU business. And they get so little for that opposition. Turkey, in contrast, gets real concessions and actual things, like materiel, fighter jets, etc., for it's wild card stance. In comparison, Hungary, as a whole, gets very little, as they tend to agree to EU demands but only after the news cycle has moved on.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19297 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:02 pm to
Well he was just another king , strongman nationalist dictator as leftist would have you believe
Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:04 pm to
False, I know this makes me the minority around here but I'm decidedly anti-sexual predator
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:04 pm to
There's a reason Russia/Putin flexed in 2014 to ensure their puppet reneged on EU integration, and it isn't because Ukraine wouldn't have benefited
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:05 pm to
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Congratulating the soon to be new Hungarian Prime Minister! May this be a new chapter in US/EU relations.

Alas, I would be remiss not to use this opportunity to flag the cognitive dissonance at play about some in the West re Iran for just a second.

Orban’s Hungary sent its Amb to felicitate the regime in Tehran for the anniversary of its Islamic Revolution amid the crackdown against the Women, Life, Freedom movement in 2023 while the rest of the EU (sans Poland) boycotted it. Reportedly his government also offered to share intelligence w/ Iran after the pager attacks against its Lebanese proxy by Israel in 2024. It has also sought closer economic ties w/ Tehran, despite them not materializing, both in 2015 and 2024. And more troubling has been his government’s stance on Putin’s Russia, and the Ukraine war - the latter of which is the Islamic Republic’s partner and the former a conflict that Iran has supported which has killed European civilians in their homes. All of this is well known to all by now.

Sadly, many online voices who vociferously supported political change in Hungary, which in the end of the day is a NATO-ally, EU-member, and has long and proud history, have been silent or lackluster on political change in Iran. That has even been the case as Iranians protested en mass and were gunned down by the regime in the tens of thousands this January under the cover of an internet blackout.

Is democratic backsliding more important than democracy seeking? Is a population fighting against theocratic despotism less relevant than those pushing back on potentially illiberal majoritarianism?

As things move ahead for Hungary, Europe, and the world, it would be wise for all those who wish well onto Magyar P’eter to broaden the aperture
and not disconnect the dots.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:06 pm to
Lol but a complete hack.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:07 pm to


This isn't going far left

This is like replacing a super corrupt Trump, with a Vance or a Rubio

Center-right in Hungary is to the right of the American right
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:16 pm to
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Hungary just bent over and got fricked raw.

Péter Magyar and his shiny new Tisza circus have stormed the gates with a projected supermajority, and the country that Viktor Orbán forged into a sovereign fortress for sixteen brutal, unapologetic years is about to get castrated in real time.

This is not some gentle pivot toward “European values.”

This is psychological warfare dressed in a tailored suit.

Magyar didn’t win on policy; he won on engineered resentment and the oldest trick in the book...weaponized nostalgia for a Hungary that never had to kneel.

He sold the electorate a fantasy:

ditch the “dictator,” open the EU tap, and suddenly the golden rain will fall.

What they’re actually getting is the velvet-gloved surrender of everything that kept Hungary Hungarian.

Facts are stubborn, and the numbers tonight are a fricking indictment. Over 50 % counted, 79 % turnout, and the same electorate that once roared for border fences and sovereignty has now handed the constitutional keys to a man whose entire platform reeks of Brussels-approved compromise.

The moment that supermajority is locked in, watch the constitutional amendments fly:

migration quotas accepted, judicial “reform” that neuters any remaining resistance, and the slow, polite handover of fiscal sovereignty back to the same technocrats who tried to starve Hungary into submission for years.

Orbán built the damn dikes; Magyar is about to dynamite them while smiling for the cameras and quoting rule-of-law platitudes.

Magyar is the perfect Trojan:

photogenic, articulate, ex-insider turned “reformer.”

He doesn’t scream revolution...he whispers it with the calm certainty of a man who knows the donor class is already writing the checks.

He preys on fatigue, on the human craving for normalcy after years of being called fascist for wanting to survive as a nation.

That’s the venomous genius of it. He doesn’t need to argue; he simply offers absolution for the “sin” of wanting control over your own borders, your own children, your own future.

And the people, exhausted by the culture war they were never allowed to win cleanly, are swallowing it whole.

This isn’t progress. This is managed decline with better PR. Hungary had the lowest illegal migration numbers in Europe, energy independence that made Brussels seethe, and an economy that told the globalist cartel to go frick itself.

Now the same forces that hollowed out Western Europe get their prize:

a compliant Budapest that will dilute its identity, flood its streets, and teach its kids that sovereignty is hate speech.

A goddamn shame doesn’t even cover it.

This is civilizational suicide by ballot box, executed with the cold precision of a man who understands exactly which buttons to push and whose money is backing the hand on the detonator.

Enjoy the ride, Hungary. You just traded a lion for a lapdog in a suit.

The regret is going to taste like iron and regret for a very long time.
Posted by CoonassatTEXAS
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:16 pm to
eastern europe? those are fighting words to any Hungarian i’ve ever known
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:20 pm to
How many have you known? There's not a lot of them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 4/12/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Hungary just bent over and got fricked raw.

Péter Magyar and his shiny new Tisza circus have stormed the gates with a projected supermajority, and the country that Viktor Orbán forged into a sovereign fortress for sixteen brutal, unapologetic years is about to get castrated in real time.

This is not some gentle pivot toward “European values.”

This is psychological warfare dressed in a tailored suit.


What a championship melt. I mean HOLY shite.

That fricking idiot is melting about "globalism" and a few posts down celebrating Trump pushing globalist war with Iran.

This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 4:22 pm
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