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Posted on 4/12/26 at 6:57 pm to LemmyLives
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If only there were evidence that this doesn't work out the way you think it does
Do you dumbasses think I'm in charge of migration policy or something?
The evidence is this: when birth rates fall, countries look to migration to fill in the gaps. I am describing the consistent trend.
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Like the UK spending more on welfare alone than they collected in total tax receipts
Pensioner benefits account for a large percentage of that spending. 55% according to the OBR guide.
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For sure not due to "refugees" right?
Maybe start thinking before typing my man.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 6:58 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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There's a reason why the EU wanted to sack Orban.
If you don't want to be subject to EU rules, you don't have to be part of the EU. You understand that, right?
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Conform or be cast out.
Yes, that is the explicit point of a political and economic union.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:00 pm to TigerMan327
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What’s wrong with the guy who just beat him?
I don't know but every lib posting in here is excited so it has to be bad
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:03 pm to crazy4lsu
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You understand that, right?
You understand what Brexit was, right?
Of course you do.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:09 pm to crazy4lsu
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Maybe start thinking before typing my man.
I like you. At least you're a halfway cogent opponent.
As I've said many times, the European Court of Human Rights overrules what any "sovereign" state that is a member wants to do politically (except for Poland, and until today, Hungary.) The progressives love it, and the poor rubes in places like Liverpool, Manchester, and Leeds don't completely get what they're doing when they vote for Labor or the useless Conservatives.
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For sure not due to "refugees" right?
Maybe start thinking before typing my man.
Housing crisis much? Import millions, give them preferences over natives (UKI and ROI), stash it in a budget line item that isn't the NHS and it's not a problem?
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The UK government spent £2.8 billion on housing migrants and asylum seekers in 2024, which was significantly more than the amount allocated for humanitarian aid.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:09 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
And like I said, after Brexit, the amount of non-EU immigration increased to over 1 million arrivals.
Let me try to put this another way. A government who was elected with the explicit mandate to leave the EU and try to 'gain control of their own borders' increased the amount of arrivals to levels the UK hasn't really seen. This was under a Tory government, and it was done despite the unpopularity of the policy.
I already asked this earlier, but you might as well take a shot. Orban had supermajorities in his fourth and fifth terms as PM. A bill was tabled to put the question of EU membership to a referendum. Why did Orban not pursue this? If he was willing to skirt and risk sanction to EU rules, and thus hamstring Hungarian integration into EU as a whole, why didn't he leave?
Let me try to put this another way. A government who was elected with the explicit mandate to leave the EU and try to 'gain control of their own borders' increased the amount of arrivals to levels the UK hasn't really seen. This was under a Tory government, and it was done despite the unpopularity of the policy.
I already asked this earlier, but you might as well take a shot. Orban had supermajorities in his fourth and fifth terms as PM. A bill was tabled to put the question of EU membership to a referendum. Why did Orban not pursue this? If he was willing to skirt and risk sanction to EU rules, and thus hamstring Hungarian integration into EU as a whole, why didn't he leave?
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:13 pm to hawgfaninc
Is Poland still good?
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:13 pm to crazy4lsu
Clearly, the people aren't in control of their gov't. That's the point you seem to be missing. The EU wanted to punish England and there are plenty of dupes in country who agree. Just as there are many here in the USA who want to destroy our country, our freedoms, our history.
Same forces are at play in Hungary.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:16 pm to LemmyLives
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I like you.
I don't know you, but Lemmy was cool as hell. I love his bass tone. I play a Rick partly due to him.
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As I've said many times, the European Court of Human Rights overrules what any "sovereign" state that is a member wants to do politically (except for Poland, and until today, Hungary.)
Yes generally that has been the trend.
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Housing crisis much? Import millions, give them preferences over natives (UKI and ROI), stash it in a budget line item that isn't the NHS and it's not a problem?
The biggest issue is the lopsided demographics. The UK has been pretty committed to allowing migration so that their current population matches what their population would been if they had retained their early 70's total fertility rate. I did the math on it a while back and the numbers line up pretty well. And the housing crisis is bad for everyone except for those who benefit from it.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:20 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Clearly, the people aren't in control of their gov't. That's the point you seem to be missing.
No, I am not missing anything. I am telling you that governments are going to do what they want regardless of what the populace wants. This is the pattern, time and again. Why would they cater to the whims of a diminishing demographic while that same demographic expects some degree of welfare as they age? Those are two contradicting demands, and it turns out that people will value the economy over social causes.
And it is a really pained argument to suggest that the UK of all places ever really had the 'people' in control of their government.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:21 pm to crazy4lsu
They wanted to vote because they didn't think 'the people' would choose to leave the EU.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:24 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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They wanted to vote because they didn't think 'the people' would choose to leave the EU.
The end result was more migration in general. Brexit is the perfect example of the government nominally achieving some popular aim only to do what they want otherwise.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 7:31 pm to WeeWee
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Someone has done zero research into this election and it is showing.
I know enough that if Alex Soros is fired up about the results then I’m not necessarily going to be as excited about the longer term consequences.
Sounds like you are pleased however and good for you. Congratulations.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 8:05 pm to crazy4lsu
More migration was coming. They might have pushed it as punishment for the Brexit vote .
Posted on 4/12/26 at 8:25 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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More migration was coming. They might have pushed it as punishment for the Brexit vote .
The levels increased to far more than the UK could handle. If there is a nefarious reason, it might be more to do with giving the next PM, as in Starmer, a nearly unsolvable problem.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 8:38 pm to hawgfaninc
Orban can still win if Mike Pence has the courage to do what’s right!
Posted on 4/12/26 at 8:51 pm to hawgfaninc
Maybe Putin will invade Europe and save them from the leftists.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 8:56 pm to Clashmore Mike
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Putin's #1 ally in the EU has lost. BTW, Hungary is around the 3rd poorest country in the EU.
It'll be the pooresr after the goat frickers take over.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 8:58 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Conform or be cast out
RUSH! Cool!
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