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re: Huckabee fires back at Tucker’s offensive rant about ‘brain virus’ of Christian Zionism

Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:34 am to
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43217 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:34 am to
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not some inherent hatred for "jews".


This is literally their only argument when boxed in with facts. This and shaming the rest for supporting the GOAT fricking pedophiles.

Think about the blind faith one must have to go out into the world and use these talking points.

There can NEVER be a difference between Israel the government led by a mad man and the Jewish faith, people and culture.

THEY MUST BE THE ABSOLUTE SAME!

Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11533 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:40 am to
My main issue with Christian Zionism is that much of it seems to come from the place of "let's try to kickstart the second-coming."

That is a fool's errand. Jesus himself said, "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Christians should stop focusing on bringing about the end times - a Tower of Babel type folly - and instead focus on following the two great commandments of the new covenant with God. I don't think loving God and loving your fellow man involves gleefully supporting a secular Hebrew land grab project.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6710 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:46 am to
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What does any of this have to do with Israel's outsized lobbyist control on our nation's warmongers? At least in the case of Carlson, he's made it very clear that's his concern... not some inherent hatred for "jews".


What does that have to do with common Jews? Newsflash, our country lobbies everywhere for it's purposes. That's what governments do: They look out for their own best interests. You don't have to like it. But asked how what I said has anything do do with lobbyists in Israel. This is not what Tucker is saying at all. Sure, he's said it before, but this isn't close to being his only objection. This is the same guy that tried to convince us that Sharia Law wasn't that bad, in order to create sympathy for the enemies of the Jews (and our own enemies).

What did Tucker say that I am addressing? He expressed his disdain for "Christian Zionists". What is a Zionist? Well I already gave you the definition, and you quoted in your reply to me, so I don't need to repeat it. So if Tucker is only talking about the Israeli government, then why is he talking about Zionists? Zionists are not about the protection of a particular government or leader within the Israeli government. So why does he hate that people the Jewish people's right to exist in Israel?

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43217 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:50 am to
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So why does he hate that people the Jewish people's right to exist in Israel?


Jesus dude you are such a liar.

Tucker never said this. And even stated with Nick Fuentes some of his best friends are Jewish.

You want to be able to bomb and kill innocent women and children so Israel can have some more land.

You worship the blood god of war man. Just admit it that you get your jimmies off by death and destruction.

You're a neocon. A member of the old guard. You won't have any power soon enough. The kids hate you. All of them.

Republicans and democrats.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62470 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:51 am to
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the “brain virus” of Christian Zionism.


Perfect description of the mentality of quite a few posters on this board.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:52 am to
no I didn't watch it. I have seen enough of Fuentes. View the video clips above I posted...to know he is a skin head.

Tucker could have made his dislike of neocons in a much better way-

Are you a jew hating white supremacist? Or just a white supremacist?

who are you, anyway? do I know you, are you an alter? you are very hateful, and insecure to make a flame post over any salient point....the quip about my age was not only bigly incorrect, but creepy personal flaming.

I am 104 years of age and live on an island what's it to you?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5985 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:55 am to
I find it interesting that there are people that act like protecting The Holy Land isn't in the Western/ American genes. Our ancestors have been fighting for this for centuries. I get separating the govt, which is a different conversation, but the basic importance of the region is what needs to be acknowledged.

I stopped listening to tuckers episodes on Israel topics. Just stick to his other interesting topics. Dude doesn't seem to have the ability to at least acknowledge the importance of the Holy Land for Christians, including early Americans. And he seems to "jokingly" compliment islam. IMO I wouldn't stand behind him in this fight against the islamification of the West.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43217 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:57 am to
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View the video clips above I posted...to know he is a skin head.


Lmao

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Tucker could have made his dislike of neocons in a much better way-


Sorry Tucker is now the one that triggers you.

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Are you a jew hating white supremacist? Or just a white supremacist?


My father was Jewish you dolt. But PLEASE I BEG YOU continue with this line of logic when everything else is falling apart with your argument. We need more of this; just like the right needed more "Muh Racist!"

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who are you, anyway? do I know you, are you an alter? you are very hateful, and insecure to make a flame post over any salient point....the quip about my age was not only bigly incorrect, but creepy personal flaming.


I am a person that is stating facts. And after what 70 years (?) of brainwashing you to believe that Jews and Christians have some sort of inevitable Revelation in the future is horrifying to believe.

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I am 104 years of age and live on an island what's it to you?


Wouldn't surprise me.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 6:58 am
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8858 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:57 am to
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I mean, can you support Israel without being labeled a Christian Zionist pig? Seems like that type of language is just anti-semitism from the right.


You can but Huckabee is exactly what Tucker says and proud of it. It’s weird new world Protestants that are often good people but lack any discernment whatsoever.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6710 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:04 am to
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I already read that dribble. It won't waste another second of my day.


If you read it, then why did you so grossly misrepresent what I said?

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Which ones? What purpose? Be specific and use examples.


When He chose them in the first place, it was to show the world that out of such a small group of people, he could make a mighty nation, not because they were good or special, but because of God's Might. He used them as an example to the world, to bring forth His Word. He used the very Jewish bloodlines of David to bring forth the Savior of the world. And the Bible tells us that in end times, all nations will come against Israel. But they won't be defeated. Why? Because it is still the holy land, and there will be a remnant who will be saved in Israel.

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I did read it. And your 2025 Christian beliefs that Paul introduced way back when don't deserve my time or interest to read again.

You trying to convince us that the New Testament is a sequel is good entertainment. I follow ONE God, friend.

That's Jesus Christ. And it's offensive and blasphemous that another so called "Christian" would try to convince me of any other religion.

Begone demon.


So you think that in 2025, Paul's words are no longer relevant? Even though he spoke these things after Jesus had ascended into heaven, where so many people believe that Israel was forever cast off from God? And you call yourself a Christian?

Why do you keep saying that the New Testament "isn't a sequel to the Old Testament"? Why does it need to be a sequel? I told you Biblical facts. The New Testament did not revoke God's promises to Israel in the Abrahamic covenant. God said it was an EVERLASTING covenant. Do you believe God lies? Why would He say everlasting, and then change His mind? It was the Mosaic covenant, the old law, that the New Testament has replaced. Jesus made the need for sacrifice obsolete, because He is the sacrifice. This is all there is to it, and why you bring up "sequel" is just incoherent.

Finally, when did I ever tell you to follow another religion? I am a Christian telling you what the Bible says. I didn't tell you to convert to Judaism. I am a defender of the Jews' right to exist in Israel, which is what Zionism is.

And Jesus said we would know them (true believers) by their fruits. You say you follow one God. But you don't seem to know what He said, and the fruit you bear in this conversation is that of hostility and ignorance. You might want to look in the mirror, friend.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 7:06 am
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11630 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:07 am to
Tucker is destroying his own brand right before our eyes. Candice Owens is also. Maybe the loss of their friend Charlie was just too much to handle.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1599 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:11 am to
I’m amazed there is a single person in here supporting Mike.

Not only does Mike not know the Nee Testament, he clearly doesn’t know the old either. Goes for Lyin Ted as well.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:17 am to
Grok, when was the concept of Zionism invented?

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The concept of Zionism—the nationalist movement advocating for the establishment of a Jewish homeland in the historic Land of Israel—was invented in the late 19th century.


1896–1897: The term "Zionism" was coined by Nathan Birnbaum, an Austrian-Jewish writer, in his journal Selbst-Emancipation (April 1890, though popularized later). The modern political movement crystallized with Theodor Herzl, who published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) in February 1896 and organized the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, from August 29–31, 1897.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170708 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:20 am to
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If you don’t want to bow to Zionism, you automatically align with an ideology that worships a bisexual pedophile.

So fricking stupid

It really is a brain virus

Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6710 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:21 am to
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Jesus dude you are such a liar.


Tucker just said, in his own words, that "Christian Zionism is a heresy". Which means he either has no idea what Zionism means, or he hates the idea of the Jews' right to exist in Israel. Because that's what Zionism means, for the billionth time that I have now said this.

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You want to be able to bomb and kill innocent women and children so Israel can have some more land.


And here's where you blatantly lie, yourself. The only reason that anyone who is innocent has dies in this war, is because Hamas used them as human shields. I don't wish for war ever to be necessary. But when you are a tiny country being attacked by multiple terrorist organizations who are funded by Islamic regimes all over the middle east, you have to fight back. They have tried peace deals over, and over, and over again. It never works. These Muslims just keep coming back. These same Muslims who chant death to Israel and death to AMERICA, you are asking Israel to back down from.

You know nothing about this conflict, because you know nothing about history. You think all war is the same, and never justified. You watch Candace Owens and are mind numbing conspiracies theories, and you think you are enlightened. But you are blinded beyond belief.

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You're a neocon. A member of the old guard. You won't have any power soon enough. The kids hate you. All of them.



I am no such thing. I haven't supported the war in Afghanistan, I haven't supported the billions of dollars spent on Ukraine. But I support an American ally, who we are not sending troops to fight their war. We send them weapons that Israel PAYS FOR. I know people like yourself like to say we "subsidize them". But it just further illustrates your ignorance. Unlike Ukraine, Israel doesn't ask for handouts.

And if "the kids" hate me, I don't care. if they aren't smart enough to think for themselves, instead of letting conspiracy mongers brainwash them, then I don't want their approval, or yours.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43217 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:28 am to
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Tucker is destroying his own brand right before our eyes. Candice Owens is also. Maybe the loss of their friend Charlie was just too much to handle.


Over 10 million views on X. Yeah ruining his brand and following.

I don't think the old guard is of the belief they are losing this war. The cognitive dissonance is strong.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3148 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:31 am to
You were asked this:
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So the only two options tor us is being an Islamist or a zionist pig?
Then you answered:
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No but when you have this much hatred for Israel you are on the side of pedophiles and goat frickers that also hate Israel.
So you quite literally do believe what he asked. Why did you put "No"?

Zionism is just a touch less destructive towards Christianity and western civilization as Islam. Both should be wiped clean from the conscience of western civilizations. Talmudic Bolsheviks killed 60 million Christians in the east. Athiest and Talmudic Zionists own the majority of record labels that produce the garbage our youth listen to, they own most of the porn companies that rot the very core of society, ie., family and marriage, and they are stalwart frontrunners for the LGBTQ agenda and head up most of the NGOs that are flooding western Christian countries with 3rd world illegals - many of which are Islamists.

You chuds have got to get out of this mindset that being opposed to one is rooting for the other. That's 2006 Fox News logic.

And I find it hilarious how Huckabee can speak on the Bible and Church history regarding dispensationalism and its 100 year old love of Zionism. THE church, THE history, does not recognize modern day Israel nor Jewish people as the chosen ones. The CHURCH is Israel.

Next he's going to tell me we're all going to meet up in the sky and get to bypass the 2nd coming of Christ and all that comes with it in some sort of pre-tribulation rapture. Oh, wait, that's made up too.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
43217 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:33 am to
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Which means he either has no idea what Zionism means, or he hates the idea of the Jews' right to exist in Israel. Because that's what Zionism means, for the billionth time that I have now said this.


Again you are a dishonest hack. Christian Zionism is being used to explain how we have some sort of end time bond with the Jews. And he's partly correct. The term Judeo Christian is bullshite. And it is heresy to worship any other god but Christ.

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The only reason that anyone who is innocent has dies in this war, is because Hamas used them as human shields.


Yeah man. Intentionally STARVING innocent women and children is "human shields" you absolute fricking moron.

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But I support an American ally


All of this is Fox News, Hannity, Mark Levin trope bullshite. How many Israeli soldiers fought in those wars? How many military bases does the US have in Israel? You ideas and beliefs in this are outdated. And full of shite.

Go gargle more Ben Shapiro talking points. Even better. Move to Israel.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170708 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:33 am to
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You chuds have got to get out of this mindset that being opposed to one is rooting for the other. That's 2006 Fox News logic.

Good luck with that

Any criticism of anything is always interpreted as being in support of something that is in direct opposition with it

This place is flooded with people that have that low level retarded logic
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7939 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:39 am to
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Make America Great Again? Jesus, dude, you Zionist war hawk neocons really are way over your skis in this discussion these days. You sound ignorant to this entire topic.

I think there’s been a misunderstanding of my position. It’s straightforward: if we’re going to provide financial aid to other countries, I would prefer it go to non-Islamic countries to counter the spread of Islam. That said, I have no objection to completely cutting foreign aid; it would actually be my preference.

If we choose to withdraw, I’ll support that decision and accept its consequences. My belief is it’s our relationship with Israel that’s holding them back from them totally eliminating the Palestinians, and if we severed that relationship, Israel would marched in to Gaza and completely conquered it. At that point, Tucker and Fuentes will be arguing for us to stop them. It’s my belief they’re not anti-interventionist, they’re anti-Israel.
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