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re: How the US has changed in my 33 years of adulthood...
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:16 pm to stickly
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:16 pm to stickly
Well to be fair, I grew up in the 90s and we lived on our bikes. My kids do today as well, but be have a general understanding of where they will be.
I believe the only reason parents are more concerned about their children is we are more aware than my parents were in the 90's and yours were in 70s.
I think the larger issue with our system as a whole. In that, we are telling black men and women that they are at a disadvantage and sowing the seed that they will have this belief as an adult. Similarly, we have made commonplace things like sexual assault and rape training in the workplace, when most of us have and will never commit these acts yet we sow the seed that perhaps we might.
I believe the only reason parents are more concerned about their children is we are more aware than my parents were in the 90's and yours were in 70s.
I think the larger issue with our system as a whole. In that, we are telling black men and women that they are at a disadvantage and sowing the seed that they will have this belief as an adult. Similarly, we have made commonplace things like sexual assault and rape training in the workplace, when most of us have and will never commit these acts yet we sow the seed that perhaps we might.
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Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:25 pm to stickly
I'm 42 and spent my teenage years in Oklahoma, where we try to resist negative change.
The childhood you describe, I also lived 10 years later here. There was always one friend who had a Nintendo, and everyone would show up at their house to take turns playing it but we'd get bored real quick and end up just riding our bikes around and going fishing and building forts out in the woods.
We had to "check in" with Mom and Dad usually around noon and again around dinner time. No cell phones existed. Most of us didn't even have landline phones. If we did some dumb shite our parents already knew before we ever even got home. Still haven't figured that one out
Better times back then for sure. I miss it tremendously.
The childhood you describe, I also lived 10 years later here. There was always one friend who had a Nintendo, and everyone would show up at their house to take turns playing it but we'd get bored real quick and end up just riding our bikes around and going fishing and building forts out in the woods.
We had to "check in" with Mom and Dad usually around noon and again around dinner time. No cell phones existed. Most of us didn't even have landline phones. If we did some dumb shite our parents already knew before we ever even got home. Still haven't figured that one out
Better times back then for sure. I miss it tremendously.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:27 pm to stickly
I predate by most of a decade at 60.
We weren’t latchkey we were “go outside and play.” “Come home for lunch and supper, now get.” Rain was a disaster for mothers and children alike.
Everyone’s ethnicity was known and made fun of, it was consequently as unimportant as your parents financial status. No words, except cussing, were off limits. This made them powerless. Think how much more fearful He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named is than Voldemort. Now the cuss words had the power! They could only be used in hushed undertones after looking around for “known squealers”.
Boys would settle differences with a fist fight and girls with fingernails and hair pulling. Boys would be playing together again in 15 minutes, and girls the next day!
If you were an a-hole at someone else’s house, their mama would slap the crap out of you, regardless of race. And don’t tell your mama or daddy that Miss. Whoever slapped you, because they would slap you for being an a-hole at the Whoever household. But you’d be outside playing again in 15 minutes with a little sniffle and wisdom.
We weren’t latchkey we were “go outside and play.” “Come home for lunch and supper, now get.” Rain was a disaster for mothers and children alike.
Everyone’s ethnicity was known and made fun of, it was consequently as unimportant as your parents financial status. No words, except cussing, were off limits. This made them powerless. Think how much more fearful He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named is than Voldemort. Now the cuss words had the power! They could only be used in hushed undertones after looking around for “known squealers”.
Boys would settle differences with a fist fight and girls with fingernails and hair pulling. Boys would be playing together again in 15 minutes, and girls the next day!
If you were an a-hole at someone else’s house, their mama would slap the crap out of you, regardless of race. And don’t tell your mama or daddy that Miss. Whoever slapped you, because they would slap you for being an a-hole at the Whoever household. But you’d be outside playing again in 15 minutes with a little sniffle and wisdom.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:28 pm to stickly
Technology and social media have made us infinitely more connected on an extremely shallow level and infinitely more disconnected any deeper levels. It’s causing a very interesting social divide and phenomena where people force themselves to be depressed and angry because they absolutely cannot accept happiness.
No one is happy with what they have anymore. No one lives in the moment.
We need a national unplug month where we go a month with absolutely no social media presence and see what happens to the collective psyche.
No one is happy with what they have anymore. No one lives in the moment.
We need a national unplug month where we go a month with absolutely no social media presence and see what happens to the collective psyche.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:56 pm to stickly
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I am 51, almost 52. I am Gen X and grew up in an era where helicopter parenting did not exist.
The golden age was when you were born - that is when I was in high school. I was born in the depression - things were certainly no very easy back then - but we were forced to develop habits of personal responsibility, honesty, compassion and a willingness to help our neighbors. My dad was a great inspiration for me - worked at any job available - sometimes for forty cents a day - but he never ever had to rely on any kind of assistance. That was due in large part because of my mother - she raised a garden that not only fed us but shared with neighbors - she never had an idle moment in her life - always working - saving - scrimping - "making do" ===> "Use it up - Wear it out - Make it Do or Do Without" still ring in my ears. In my juvenile years we were as free as a man has ever been - had our chores but free to explore to our hearts content.
Kids these days have no way to even believe what that kind of freedom feels like - and to see them spending their youth staring at little video screens playing some idiotic game saddens my soul.
I became politically aware in the Dewey/Truman election - but was not too interested - Not really had any interest til the JFK/RMN election in '60.
Those were halcyon days - downhill since LBJ - over the cliff with WJC .
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:57 pm to stickly
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In my opinion, American freedom and awesomeness peaked somewhere from 78 to 88.
I graduated high school in '78, turning 18 just before graduation.
I think this is spot on. Growing up in the 60s and 70s, it's amazing to me how things have changed for the worse, even in my little hometown.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 4:59 pm to Zach
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I'm around the age of your parents. We were more free than you were.
My great grandkids are your age. I agree.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:00 pm to Gaspergou202
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I predate by most of a decade at 60.
We weren’t latchkey we were “go outside and play.” “Come home for lunch and supper, now get.” Rain was a disaster for mothers and children alike.
Everyone’s ethnicity was known and made fun of, it was consequently as unimportant as your parents financial status. No words, except cussing, were off limits. This made them powerless. Think how much more fearful He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named is than Voldemort. Now the cuss words had the power! They could only be used in hushed undertones after looking around for “known squealers”.
Boys would settle differences with a fist fight and girls with fingernails and hair pulling. Boys would be playing together again in 15 minutes, and girls the next day!
If you were an a-hole at someone else’s house, their mama would slap the crap out of you, regardless of race. And don’t tell your mama or daddy that Miss. Whoever slapped you, because they would slap you for being an a-hole at the Whoever household. But you’d be outside playing again in 15 minutes with a little sniffle and wisdom.
My GOD - you have nailed it perfectly!!! and I predate you by a score.
Those words describe my upbringing perfectly -
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:16 pm to Gaspergou202
quote:I'm 66, born and raised in the sticks of middle Georgia, and I relate to every word you say here. I had a healthy fear of my daddy, and looking back on it, that was how it was supposed to be. Daddies weren't your buddies back then, and they weren't supposed to be. You can't learn right from wrong from your buddies. That is daddy's job, especially for boys. Hardly any daddies present in households today, and those where they are they have been totally pu$$y whipped by government and society at large. I fear we are sunk as a nation. Hope not, but seems we are headed that way.
predate by most of a decade at 60.
We weren’t latchkey we were “go outside and play.” “Come home for lunch and supper, now get.” Rain was a disaster for mothers and children alike.
Everyone’s ethnicity was known and made fun of, it was consequently as unimportant as your parents financial status. No words, except cussing, were off limits. This made them powerless. Think how much more fearful He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named is than Voldemort. Now the cuss words had the power! They could only be used in hushed undertones after looking around for “known squealers”.
Boys would settle differences with a fist fight and girls with fingernails and hair pulling. Boys would be playing together again in 15 minutes, and girls the next day!
If you were an a-hole at someone else’s house, their mama would slap the crap out of you, regardless of race. And don’t tell your mama or daddy that Miss. Whoever slapped you, because they would slap you for being an a-hole at the Whoever household. But you’d be outside playing again in 15 minutes with a little sniffle and wisdom.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:23 pm to stickly
The biggest change I see, when I was a kid, I had no idea what the political affiliation was of my neighbors, teachers, friends, etc.
Nobody cared and most everybody loved America.
Today, the Filth has infiltrated everything and the brain washing through media, Hollywood, sports and social media is devastating the population.
Nobody cared and most everybody loved America.
Today, the Filth has infiltrated everything and the brain washing through media, Hollywood, sports and social media is devastating the population.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:27 pm to redneck hippie
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While I get what you’re saying, I was also raised to not discuss religion or politics in social settings.
It was also ok to discuss patriotism. You guys made it offensive to be proud of your country. That’s just another area of degradation of our culture.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:34 pm to stickly
Generations don't raise themselves. It's your generation that raised this current crop of absolute pussies. Everyone bemoans these kids that get trophies for losing but who do you think bought those trophies? The 30-45 year old parents.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:48 pm to Zach
Out after breakfast, back for lunch, back out again until dark. That was freedom!
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:49 pm to stickly
I thought we were called latch key kids because our parents didn't give a shite about us....
In general, GenXers do not remotely possess the "I'm so special and my precious feelings matter" that seems so common in members (not all) of the generations that have followed.
We are more Libertarian and less leftist. We hated Boomers before it was cool, and we're the most ignored demographic since WW2, but don't really care.
America peaked in the 80s for sure.
In general, GenXers do not remotely possess the "I'm so special and my precious feelings matter" that seems so common in members (not all) of the generations that have followed.
We are more Libertarian and less leftist. We hated Boomers before it was cool, and we're the most ignored demographic since WW2, but don't really care.
America peaked in the 80s for sure.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:52 pm to Homesick Tiger
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I knew the world had changed when we had to start locking our doors to the house and to our cars, circa mid to late 60s.
You are right. I remember us starting to lock the house after Charles Manson murders and we lived bumfuk KY...
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:54 pm to iheartchimichangas
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I believe the only reason parents are more concerned about their children is we are more aware than my parents were in the 90's and yours were in 70s.
More aware of what?
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:57 pm to Homesick Tiger
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I knew the world had changed when we had to start locking our doors to the house and to our cars, circa mid to late 60s.
Where I grew up.....I don’t remember cars and homes being regularly locked until late 70’s.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 5:58 pm to stickly
I'm 37 and grw up in a small town right on the Texas border. We lived next to the church and backed up to about 100 acres of dense forest. We had trails, bike ramps, traps and a pond to fish. The town was small enough that all the kids stuck together. We played, got hurt, beat the crap out of each other but left it all out there for another day. We were allowed 1 hour of Nintendo on Saturdays but were forced to stay outside. One of the moms had a giant church bell and when you heard it, it was time to go home.
I also can vividly remember playing under my house and will never forget the cold touch to the dirt under there.
Now here I am typing this while on the shitter.
I also can vividly remember playing under my house and will never forget the cold touch to the dirt under there.
Now here I am typing this while on the shitter.
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:03 pm to stickly
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And while kids would do dumb things, those stupid things wouldn't follow them around forever
Same age, Amen. Still have two eyes, ten fingers, ten toes, despite roman candle jousting at age 12 from 20 ft away while wearing terry cloth shirt..they go up in flames instantly..who knew?
Space Port > X Box Live
Posted on 10/18/20 at 6:43 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Same age, Amen. Still have two eyes, ten fingers, ten toes, despite roman candle jousting at age 12 from 20 ft away while wearing terry cloth shirt..they go up in flames instantly..who knew?
Ha! I remember having bottle rocket wars. Just needed a cardboard tube from wrapping paper, some duct tape, and a quick aim.
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