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Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:17 pm to NPComb
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How much money does Russia have to wage on multiple campaigns?
That is a solid question. A large portion of the answer is going to be determined by how much shite China wants to eat.
China was already giving Putin/Russia public lip a week or 2 ago, so it may not be for much longer (especially if Russia escalates).
Russia did save up to have a lot of reserves (likely for this operation or whichever one ultimately had a western response), so they have some time.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's going to have even higher costs
Highly debatable. If we left just half of foreign aid in the pockets of the taxpayers, this nation would produce wealth never before seen.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:20 pm to sta4ever
quote:The question has nothing to do with us. The question has to do with the perception of a country which lost > 200-fold what 'we' did in Europe, had much of its homeland destroyed, and received no Marshall Plan to aid rebuilding.
Are we
So the vast political establishment, not just Putin, said no NATO in Ukraine or Georgia. NATO ignored them.
What is NATO's reward for being involved in Ukraine? because there is a truckload of risks.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'll give you one easy example: gas prices
Maybe we should drill ourselves and become self sustained
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I'll give you a second (if you're not on KETO): bread prices
Biden blamed Putin for gas prices already, maybe he can add bread to the list. So, we can't grow our own wheat?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:22 pm to NPComb
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In WW2 there was an attack on American soil. In 2022, we are the ones poking the bear this time. It's not our business.
How are we poking the bear? By backing a country’s decision to determine their own fate? By thinking that doing what Russia is doing can’t be ignored? How can you guys be this stubborn and blinded by American politics?
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With zero involvement it would mean a much lower chance we get involved in an escalation with either Russia or Ukraine. Let them fight.
That’s ridiculous thinking. Anyone that knows anything about geopolitics, history, and war knows this not to be true. WWII changed the world and the US’s foreign policy. Some European countries still live in pre 20th century times. They still think the same way, whenever the majority of the world is past that kind of thinking. I hate it but it’s the way it is.
I understand the US has its faults, but you guys are breaking your backs and sucking dick, just to defend Putin. It’s asinine. Majority of this conflict is at the fault of Putin.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:24 pm to NPComb
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Maybe we should drill ourselves and become self sustained
You sound like Saints fans saying it's OK we traded our 2023 1st b/c we'll get one for Payton. Prices will still be higher b/c of Russia.
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Biden blamed Putin for gas prices already, maybe he can add bread to the list.
There are reports that hundreds of millions will face famine because of this invasion. If you don't think wheat scarcity will have no impact on wheat pricing, I don't know what to tell you.
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So, we can't grow our own wheat?
We already produce a ton.
The price is set via international market, though.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:25 pm to NPComb
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Again, I don't care. These countries have zero effect on me.
STOP SUCKING PUTIN'S DICK!!!!!
Sincerely,
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:25 pm to sta4ever
This is where you lose your high ground in a debate. Comparing a sentiment to stay out of foreign conflicts with “having Putin’s Dick in your mouth”. It’s the sad premise of this entire thread.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's going to have even higher costs.
But yes, inherent in the discussion about Ukraine is one of "globalism",
So you use your own ratio'ed thread as a rebuttal?
Either your troll level is a solid 9/10 or you've gone off the deep end.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:27 pm to sta4ever
quote:The 2022 version of "if we don't fight them over there, we'll have to fight theme here."
That’s ridiculous thinking. Anyone that knows anything about geopolitics, history, and war knows this not to be true. WWII changed the world and the US’s foreign policy. Some European countries still live in pre 20th century times. They still think the same way, whenever the majority of the world is past that kind of thinking. I hate it but it’s the way it is.
quote:And, the 2022 version of... if you don't support getting WMDs out of Iraq you aren't patriotic!
I understand the US has its faults, but you guys are breaking your backs and sucking dick, just to defend Putin. It’s asinine. Majority of this conflict is at the fault of Putin.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:27 pm to Taxing Authority
Nailed it
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:27 pm to NPComb
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So you use your own ratio'ed thread as a rebuttal?
Ratio'd? This isn't Reddit
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This isn't Reddit
It’s getting close
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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The question has nothing to do with us. The question has to do with the perception of a country which lost > 200-fold what 'we' did in Europe, had much of its homeland destroyed, and received no Marshall Plan to aid rebuilding. So the vast political establishment, no just Putin, said no NATO in Ukraine or Georgia. NATO ignored them. What is NATO's reward for being involved in Ukraine? because there is a truckload of risks.
Their perception is wrong because they are lead by a USSR type of leader. That’s not the question though. The question is, should Ukraine be able to dictate their own future? No one is invading Russia or is going to. That’s completely ridiculous to think so. Only one side is willing to use military force, to tell a country how they should run their country, even if that country doesn’t want to.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:31 pm to Flats
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Again, I don't care. These countries have zero effect on me.
STOP SUCKING PUTIN'S DICK!!!!!
Sincerely,
IKR! You can tell in every post that I make with regards to the shite show in eastern Europe than I'm a Putin bootlicker. I put Putin's well being on a higher pedestal than American interests.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I will be upset if Russia uses nukes...
Well the good news is that you'll only be upset for a second. Because very soon after, we'll all be dead.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:32 pm to Vacherie Saint
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It’s getting close
On the flip side.
Reddit thinks I'm a borderline Nazi that I'm so right wing.
This board has started to routinely call me a leftist (including by most of those downvoters in that thread)
Again, polarity and echo chambers.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This isn't Reddit
These discussions kinda are
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/3/22 at 1:32 pm to Giantkiller
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Because very soon after, we'll all be dead.
Before I go, let me say "frick Vladamir Putin".
I hope you all do the same
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