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re: How many of you have gotten the vaccine?

Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:07 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24951 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:07 am to
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Some people it doesn't kill, but turns them into a vegetable.


Bull shite.


My son spent several weeks in NY tending to a ward of 34 beds with people on ventilators. Yeah, death is not the worst outcome. Of course, he saw it first hand. What's your source?

Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15607 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:09 am to
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Why are they paying people to take them? 
Because folks like you exist haha. The lack of self awareness in this question is funny. This doesn't even need to be an insult...getting paid to do something creates larger incentive for those that may be resistant.

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Why such a strong push? For such a non lethal virus..
It's been deadlier than the flu virus so I would expect a push for it. Convincing yourself on the level of it's lethality based on your political views doesn't actually make it more/less lethal.

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Why did they suppress alternate treatments?
You mean why did the government and/or drug companies not stop what they are doing to support unverified alternatives that would need the same rigorous testing they had been doing on an actual vaccine? Who knows....?

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Something isn’t right and if you don’t see it then I don’t know what to tell ya
This should be the PT board motto. It's the convenient catch all for anything the government is responsible for or involved with other than military spending.


This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:18 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24951 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:10 am to
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What is this supposed to mean? Rhinovirus makes up the largest segment of cold viruses followed by coronaviruses. The former being more mild, generally.

Both account for they lions share of cold infections, for which there are millions every year.


As noted. There are quite a few Rhinoviruses and several coronaviruses in the common cold plus a bunch of unknowns. That makes a vaccine for a "common cold" not such a simple matter.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34996 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:12 am to
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Explain this narrative, though. What's the endgame in this scenario?

1. Create virus
2. Create vaccine
3 ... Profit?

Not that I'm telling you this is my exact theory, but for the sake of conversation.....

Yes, endgame could be partially profit. And/or it could simply be the way of "wrapping up" a massive live human experiment consisting of all sorts of goals. Or could even be yet another facet of that massive live human experiment. Just off the top of my head.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14723 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:15 am to
ok, well respectfully, I think you need to flesh out that narrative a bit because it's full of plot holes at the moment
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34996 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:21 am to
Well, with respect of course, I only kept it simple because the question was set up relatively simply. But to expand a little as to potential motivations behind such a nefarious plot in general....

It's a real life field study on how such viruses move about the world under current world conditions. It's an opportunity to determine just how far governments throughout the world can go in suspending or outright nullifying laws, rights, regulations, etc etc. Yes, it's an opportunity for money grab in all sorts of ways, vaccine creation included. It's an opportunity to "redistribute wealth". It's an opportunity damage or destroy politicians or political campaigns. Again, just spitballing for the sake of conversation.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15607 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:22 am to
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And/or it could simply be the way of "wrapping up" a massive live human experiment consisting of all sorts of goals. Or could even be yet another facet of that massive live human experiment. Just off the top of my head.


It's hard to think that absolutely everything is on the up and up, but how do you jump to these conclusion?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34996 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:25 am to
Someone's asking for something to chew on as to potential nefarious motivations. As I mentioned before, these aren't necessarily my own opinions or theories, rather merely some things if I was "forced" to come up with those types of explanations.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38260 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:39 am to
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The easy way to avoid it is to live a healthy lifestyle and have good hygiene.
Yeah, that's what I do. You still get them. Are we actually now disputing the fact that colds spread?

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And what moron would get an mrna vaccine for the common cold?
Hundreds of millions will. You will be the moron on the outside looking in, apparently.

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Maybe you should live in a bubble?
Maybe. Or I'd prefer to just live my life fully with a bit more comfort.

Would you get a vaccine if it prevented mosquito bites or poison ivy?
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12656 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:50 am to
If trump won (for trumpkins)
TRUMP MADE IT SO FAST WE GOT IT

If Trump won (for libs)
WE WONT TAKE IT ITS A RUSHED VACCINE)

Ya so both groups present the same problem
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2113 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:59 am to
Not I, said the wise man.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26248 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:32 am to
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You mean why did the government and/or drug companies not stop what they are doing to support unverified alternatives that would need the same rigorous testing they had been doing on an actual vaccine? Who knows....?


Ivermectin Hcq have both been used for decades with side affects being as low as any drug ever. Nobody suggested they stop anything,

You ask who know why, I do.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
Member since Nov 2007
1616 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:45 am to
I survived the J&J vaccine.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17048 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:27 am to
I have not had it. Been considering it because of my age and I"m overweight but still have concerns about the vaccine. Nobody knows the longer term effects and it was approved as an Emergency Vaccine. It was manmade and I still keep thinking of the whole Bill Gates thing of controlling the population through vaccination. Wife had the shots and parents and in laws and none had major issues after taking it. Know a few younger people who were sick after getting it.

Long story short, I'm still on the fence about getting it. If work tells me I have to then I guess I will.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:43 am to
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And this is why this board is full of total and complete wackjobs.


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So you’d rather catch a virus that was designed and engineered in a Chinese lab as a bio weapon rather than take a vaccine


You realize that the virus and the vaccine were likely all created together, right? That's usually how that works. They don't release the virus until they also have the "cure" which can then gain a profit for the evil scientists.
Posted by Gumbaw
Member since May 2018
675 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:46 am to
I'm not injecting an experimental, non-FDA approved substance in my body, that is pushed by people known to want to reduce the global population, made by manufacturers who have no liability whatsoever if I become injured, for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24620 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:48 am to
I was pretty prepared to get the vaccine until annoying people wouldn’t shut their fricking yaps about it and non-vaxxers started getting shamed.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10849 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:49 am to
I was in a band. Bass player was ER doctor. They were all talking about how bass player was going to get vaccine at his hospital. I said I wasn’t getting that shot. Doctor got all serious and asked me why and said I was misinformed if I had reasons not to. Said that they were conservative including doctor but his buddies at CDC claimed politicization/interference from Trump administration. I said, not likely as democrats always are guilty of what they blame others of doing. Not sure if it's coincidence or intentional due to my stance, but I haven't been called to play with that band anymore. Oh well.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:19 am to
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this board is full of total and complete wackjobs

rigorously tested and was designed by American corporations.

That’s bat shite insane.


If it needs to be explained to you, you don't deserve an explanation.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170412 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:21 am to
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Wat?

Africa is not one of our major trading partners. What the hell have you been smoking?


They will be eventually if we want to succeed the rest of this century
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