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re: How long before there’s open warfare in the Rep Party?
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:21 am to obdobd918
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:21 am to obdobd918
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There will be another election and they will cheat again.
Stopping the 2022 fraud before it happens is the key. Forensic audits of original paper ballots, voter registrations and voting machines is the necessary first step followed by prosecution of crooked dems with laws and civil suits to press for election integrity.
Beyond that, 72% of Republicans want the party to be more like Trump. The GOPe is toast.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 9:27 am
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:17 am to AggieHank86
quote:hate Hank all you want.
Either way, it is interesting watching Trump supporters refer to traditional Republicans as being Republican “in name only,“ when those Trump supporters were often voting Democrat only a decade or two ago.
But this cat spittin
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:45 am to AggieHank86
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15% of Trump voters voted for Obama in 2012, and 11% of Trump voters voted for Obama in BOTH 2008 and 2012.
If that is True how did Biden beat Trump ? You are claiming Trump took 15% of the Obama supporters and still lost to Joe Biden. And Joe Biden got 16 million more votes then Obama . So Biden replaced the 9 million Obama supporters and added another 16 millions . Sounds realistic.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:00 am to tjv305
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The war will start when American first patriots do what ever it take to drain the swamp
Think I saw this one before
L Ron Trump gives pep talk
Trump jumps in Limo and leaves
Chaos ensues and Trump disowns the whole group
I get more overhead space because your on Fed No Fly list
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:19 am to tjv305
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If that is True how did Biden beat Trump ? You are claiming Trump took 15% of the Obama supporters and still lost to Joe Biden. A
not what was posted.
trump just ran in the 2020.
there is no data in this thread about people who voted for obama and then voted 2020 for anyone.
the scuttlebutt is that suburban voters were not all in for trump.
some but not all.
surely the actual data is available.
but your reply misses the mark because it's not based on anything in the thread.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:26 am to Auburn1968
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72% of Republicans want the party to be more like Trump. The GOPe is toast.
the gope is on tv saying that if the ones who do not want party of trump sit out 2022 or even 5% of Rs vote moderate D in locales with full on trumpy candidates the trumpians lose ugly.
the primaries will be must watch tv.
usually fanatics win primaries because the avg joe dngaf. hence putting abortion or civil rights for dwarves on referenda in midterms.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:55 am to Tmcgin
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Think I saw this one before L Ron Trump gives pep talk Trump jumps in Limo and leaves Chaos ensues and Trump disowns the whole group I get more overhead space because your on Fed No Fly list
They did nothing to drain the swamp that day. All they did was show they are pissed . I am think more along the lines of voting for the farthest left candidates and let the country burn . As long as we keep voting for deep state republicans we will keep moving left slowly. That’s the worse case scenario. We need to speed this trim up .
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:18 pm to AggieHank86
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Either way, it is interesting watching Trump supporters refer to traditional Republicans as being Republican “in name only,“ when those Trump supporters were often voting Democrat only a decade or two ago.
This is not very accurate.
Usually this argument centers on the South.
No question Southerners voted Democrat from the destruction of the Whig party and the rise of the Republican Party in the mid 1800s.
But, in the 1928, the GOP (Hoover) won Texas 20, Oklahoma 10, Kentucky 13, Tennessee 12, Virginia 12, North Carolina 12, and Florida 6. Total electoral votes 85. The Democrat (Smith) won Arkansas 8, Louisiana 10, Mississippi 10, Alabama12, Georgia 14, and South Carolina.9. Total 63. GOP, Southern victory.
Then back to Solid South 1932, 100% Democrat (FDR). 1936, 100% FDR. 1940 100% FDR. 1944, 100% FDR.
Now 1948, reflecting a schism in the Democratic Party, the Democrat (Truman) won Texas 23, Oklahoma 10, Arkansas 9, Kentucky 11, Tennessee 11, Virginia 11, North Carolina 14, Georgia 12, and Florida 8. The “States Rights Democrat”, Thurmond ( the only Dixiecrat to ever switch to the GOP
) won Louisiana 10, Mississippi 9, Alabama 11, and South Carolina 8. Republicans didn’t win any. The Republicans return in 1952, Eisenhower won Texas 24, Oklahoma 8, Tennessee 11, Virginia 12, and Florida 10. Total 65. And Democrat, Stevenson won Kentucky 10, Arkansas 8, Louisiana 10, Mississippi 8, Alabama 11, Georgia 12, South Carolina 8, and North Carolina 14. Total 81. Democrats won but GOP substantial.
1956, GOP wins Texas 24, Oklahoma 8, Kentucky 10, Tennessee 11, Louisiana 10, Virginia 12, and Florida 10. Total 85. And Democrats, Arkansas 8, Mississippi 8, Alabama 10, Georgia 12, South Carolina 8, and North Carolina 14. Total 60. GOP victory again.
1960 return of Dixiecrats. Byrd Sr, father of Byrd J. who eventually became an Independent but always caucused with the Democrats, won 1 of Oklahoma 8, all of Mississippi 8, and 6 of Alabama 11. Total 15. GOP won 7 of Oklahoma, Kentucky 10, Tennessee 11, Virginia 12, and Florida 10. Total 50. And JFK won Texas 24, Arkansas 8, Louisiana 10, 5 of Alabama 11, Georgia 12, South Carolina 8, and North Carolina 14. Total 81. Democrats win. But GOP substantial.
1964, Goldwater, GOP wins Louisiana Mississippi Alabama Georgia South Carolina and North Carolina. Total 47. LBJ 98.
The Solid South was not so solid!
1968, Nixon and GOP win 74. Democrats 25, and Dixiecrat Wallace 46.
1970, political strategist Kevin Phillips, popularized Southern Strategy where GOP would go after “racist white Southerners” with adoption of state rights. The Southern Strategy is a myth. Politicians go after every vote they can get. GOP won substantial GOP votes in 1928, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, and 1968. Notice most dates before Civil Rights Acts? The GOP and the South became compatible from Ike.
Most Blue Dog Democrats stayed Democrats until DEATH.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:18 pm to Gaspergou202
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This is not very accurate.
Usually this argument centers on the South.
*goes on to post ancient history*
Then explain the Trump supporters who voted for Obama as Hank posted.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:24 pm to FlySaint
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The true small government republicans cannot coexist any longer with the paranoid schizophrenic Trump supporters. Mostly because they nutjobs will soon be distracted by the next "scary" thing.
FIFY
Some elements of America First will get incorporated into the core Republican platform (tighter control on immigration and foreign trade. Hopefully antipathy toward military intervention, but not holding my breath).
The fight will continue. At this point, it's unclear if suburban voters can be won back.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:48 pm to tjv305
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They did nothing to drain the swamp that day. All they did was show they are pissed . I am think more along the lines of voting for the farthest left candidates and let the country burn . As long as we keep voting for deep state republicans we will keep moving left slowly. That’s the worse case scenario. We need to speed this trim up
That is damn straight.
Also, I'd like to kick the shite out of George Bush.
This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:59 pm to BigJim
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Then explain the Trump supporters who voted for Obama as Hank posted.
Hank wrote:
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Republican “in name only,“ when those Trump supporters were often voting Democrat only a decade or two ago.
Obama ran in 2008?
Actually if you are talking about Democrat “switch hitter” voters, then this harkens back to the 80s Reagan (who RINOs hated) Democrats and the 2009 Tea Party movement that “in name only” GOPers helped the DNC/MSM Political Complex kill.
Now Obama voters who switched to Trump matured 8 years and that is a considerable period of time. They also compared Obama’s promises to his record and found them wanting. It’s called wisdom.
Posted on 3/1/21 at 3:05 pm to FlySaint
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he DS uni party members cannot coexist any longer with the pro-Trump America First side. There will be a winning side and a losing side before it’s all over.
When do we see each side going all out against the other?
DS will have the MSM and social media at their disposal. Other side will have middle America.
So how does this war go down?
There won't be any warfare within the Republican Party. The never Trumpers and Recucklicans understand they're more aligned with the Dims than the America First movement so they'll simply support any politicians that oppose MAGA/America First.
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