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re: How is Russia losing this war?
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:01 am to riccoar
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:01 am to riccoar
They want to get the Bidens, Clintons, McCains and Romneys influence out of Ukraine. They believe that is causing so much civil unrest. A compromised Ukraine makes the Russians feel unsafe and vulnerable to a Nato attack.
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:02 am to Shuga4689
Quit listening to CNN and CNBC. Russia is not losing this war. I wish they were, but they're not.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:04 am to Palmetto98
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We literally just left a spanking in Afghanistan lol
What spanking? There wasn't one conflict with Taliban that US forces lost.
Just because an incompetent idiot like Biden completely botched the "withdrawal" doesn't mean "we" got spanked
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:05 am to lowspark12
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if zelensky is in power when this is all over, that would not be a “win” for Russia…. Russian may military is having success, but if their political object of regime change doesn’t happen, that would be a failure.
Russia will eat Ukraine and Moldova like a snake swallows its prey... slowly, on it's own timetable, and irreversibly. I don't think Putin cares if they get the whole thing as long as every 4-5 years they eat a little more in areas strategically and economically important to Russia.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:07 am to lsucoonass
quote:What? The US in the 1783. Slaves in the 1860s. Western Europe in the 1940s.
Here’s no winners in war.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:10 am to Shuga4689
Wouldn't say they are losing, but their strategy and doctrine are moronic in light of their military advantages. Currently they are doing a lot of artillery and unguided rocket shelling of cities, which makes no sense if their reason for their snail approach is to absorb the country in tact. All they are doing is killing civilians, destroying infrastructure they are then going to have to rebuild, and insuring a more pissed off population and a vicious insurgency down the road.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 9:11 am
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:10 am to SWCBonfire
I’m not doubting that may be Putins aim… but that’s a 19th century mindset… it’s silly and unrealistic. Russia is going have Ukraine (and Muldova) under military occupation?… does anyone realistically think the Russian gov (who is approaching bankruptcy) can support that?
The US has the largest military budget and best equipped forces… supported by the worlds largest economy… we spent trillions in occupying Afghanistan, and it’s population and landmass is less than Ukraine… how will that work exactly?
The US has the largest military budget and best equipped forces… supported by the worlds largest economy… we spent trillions in occupying Afghanistan, and it’s population and landmass is less than Ukraine… how will that work exactly?
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:18 am to SWCBonfire
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I don't think Putin cares if they get the whole thing as long as every 4-5 years they eat a little more in areas strategically and economically important to Russia.
That scenario would be a complete disaster for Putin and virtually untenable with his current economic issues.
The best case scenario was something similar to Crimea and annexing those pro Russian parts of Ukraine quickly.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:22 am to alpinetiger
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That's not Putin's goal you philistine. Read the surrender demands.
Then why the mad rush for Kyiv in the first two days?
Let’s not kid ourselves, this whole “special operation” was built on some really bad assumptions by Russian political class… they wrongfully assumed zelensky could be overthrown and a puppet regime installed quickly… 2014 was relatively easy… they thought this would follow a similar path.
Now, the Russian military has learned some hard lessons… the extended offensives are over… they’re overwhelming with artillery and attempting to seize cities… they’re gonna wear down their opponent.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:26 am to narddogg81
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Wouldn't say they are losing, but their strategy and doctrine are moronic in light of their military advantages. Currently they are doing a lot of artillery and unguided rocket shelling of cities, which makes no sense if their reason for their snail approach is to absorb the country in tact. All they are doing is killing civilians, destroying infrastructure they are then going to have to rebuild, and insuring a more pissed off population and a vicious insurgency down the road.
The can ultimately crush the Ukranian military and subjugate the country by sheer brute force and terror. I am not sure they are winning the war ultimately.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:27 am to RD Dawg
It worked previously.
The Russians evidently are getting more resistance than expected and miscalculated. Didn't say it was a great plan, just said it was the plan.
Next plan is to grind their opponents in a meat grinder if they don't submit. US forces didn't take women and children in view of belligerents and start shooting them one by one until the militants surrendered, either. That's the kind of potential the Russians have, because they've displayed it over and over. You're viewing occupation with a western democracy mindset instead of a dictatorial one.
I distrust both sides.
The Russians evidently are getting more resistance than expected and miscalculated. Didn't say it was a great plan, just said it was the plan.
Next plan is to grind their opponents in a meat grinder if they don't submit. US forces didn't take women and children in view of belligerents and start shooting them one by one until the militants surrendered, either. That's the kind of potential the Russians have, because they've displayed it over and over. You're viewing occupation with a western democracy mindset instead of a dictatorial one.
I distrust both sides.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:28 am to Shuga4689
When Russia withdraws, having accomplished their goals, the media will still say they lost lol.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:28 am to Shuga4689
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How is Russia losing this war?
Turn off your television.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:28 am to Shuga4689
American media calling Putin weak and not healthy and then they don’t understand why he double downs on the bombing. American propaganda is getting Ukrainians killed. I honestly think the media wanted Russia to speed up the invasion thinking Ukrainians could come behind and retake the areas (didn’t the US make that mistake in Iraq)? Putin seems to be doing it slow and steady.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:39 am to FlexDawg
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When Russia withdraws, having accomplished their goals, the media will still say they lost lol.
Armies that “win” typically don’t withdraw… in fact, most would call that failure.
For Russia to withdraw, one of two things has to happen… and negotiated peace with the current Ukrainian regime… Russia removes current regime and replaces with a pro-russian regime that is viewed by Ukrainians are legitimate. .
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:40 am to ApexTiger
quote:What sense does this make? Why would a Russian be leaving Russia? They arent being invaded
Russia doesn't have 3 million refugees...Ukraine does...
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:42 am to loogaroo
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Ask the Reddit guys that went there to fight if Russia is losing.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:45 am to SWCBonfire
They’ve lost because the West is choking them to death off the battlefield. Russia’s economy is in complete freefall. It is going to be more isolated than North Korea at this pace. International trade is basically dead.
There’s more likely to be regime change in Russia than they are to hold Ukraine
There’s more likely to be regime change in Russia than they are to hold Ukraine
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:45 am to Homesick Tiger
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/16/22 at 9:45 am to TimeOutdoors
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American media calling Putin weak and not healthy and then they don’t understand why he double downs on the bombing. American propaganda is getting Ukrainians killed. I honestly think the media wanted Russia to speed up the invasion thinking Ukrainians could come behind and retake the areas (didn’t the US make that mistake in Iraq)? Putin seems to be doing it slow and steady.
Putin's ego and miscalculations are getting more Ukranians killed. That should be in a different category than whether we're egging him on or whether the Ukranians could give up their livelihoods and sovereignty to make it stop.
My apologies to the Putin fan boi who got his feelings hurt
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 9:50 am
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