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re: How does the cost of Healthcare come down?
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:20 pm to Pragmatist2025
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:20 pm to Pragmatist2025
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What happens if you decline the Tylenol and just take one from the bottle your wife brought from home? It seems being able to contest charges with an itemized billing statement would be a good thing.
It's a bit of a silly point imo, go ahead, take your Tylenol, but what about the other 20 drugs that are controlled substances/prescription-only doses? You aren't bringing that from home. Nor are you bringing IVs nor a hospital bed nor all the equipment the staff has to use in the process of treating you etc.
And the charges themselves are typically already being contested by your insurer - they have clinically knowledgeable workers (often former RNs & MDs) reviewing itemized bills to determine whether or not to make payment. Personally I'd rather them do so than have to haggle over every detail of my medical treatment.
Hospitals are typically required to treat certain cases whether the patient can pay or not...they have to raise prices on the ones who can pay to make up the difference. There is also a significant amount of government reimbursement & writeoffs for charity care/bad debt expense. The amount of unhealthy people in our country means that the price is driven up significantly. But even the best performing hospitals are breaking even or making a small margin. It's a tough business.
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Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:31 pm to The Scofflaw
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It should be obvious by now it's beyond broken. What can be done to fix the system? It is definitely not sustainable on the current path.
Several yrs ago one of the news magazine shows did a story on international medical vacations for people who did not have insurance. This was a pre-Obamacare story obviously.
There were 3-4 stories in the report where people who had lost their insurance and were deemed not coverable for pre-existing conditions went to hospitals in Thialand, India, and South Africa for surgeries like hip replacement and heart valve work. These medical spa vacations paid for all of thier transportation, medical procedures, care, and convalescence on site. Most were for 3-4 weeks. These people had like 5 nurses attending to them.
The kicker was that once you go out of US system you lose any rights to sue. However, most of these people were out of options and the whole trip cost them about 25% of what the American costs would have been.
Oddly, I have not seen anything about any of this since.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:51 pm to Privateer 2007
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Cut government handouts.
Get ppl in better shape.
Cut Medicare Medicaid reimbursements
Good start but need to only get fresh foods with food stamps. No junk food. No soda. Medicare is paid in to and mandatory. MedicAid is voluntary and needs to go away.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 12:53 pm to dalefla
stop paying for illegals at hospitals.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 1:02 pm to Feelthebarn
When it is literally in all foods, even in vegetables and fruits, this is what you get and it is exactly what big food, big pharma and the healthcare companies want.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 4:17 pm to BuckI
quote:You really have no clue as to WTF you're talking about. None.
The health care industry would love this. The patient not so much.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 4:23 pm to BuckI
quote:Goodness.
You think regulation decreases costs. It doesn’t.
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The current system sure hasn't.
You must have glossed over his erudite observation about our current healthcare system being the most regulated industry in our country.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 4:24 pm to Bigdawgb
quote:
It's a bit of a silly point imo, go ahead, take your Tylenol, but what about the other 20 drugs that are controlled substances/prescription-only doses? You aren't bringing that from home. Nor are you bringing IVs nor a hospital bed nor all the equipment the staff has to use in the process of treating you etc.
If the hospital has a per diem rate with the insurer for inpatient days, the amounts on the bill are completely irrelevant for both the insurance company and the patient.
Hospital:
5 days In Patient
10 Tylenol at $3000
Imaging at $22000
Supplies at $1300
Insurance:
Oh, the per diem rate is $2350, so you get 5 X $2350, Mr. hospital.
This post was edited on 6/29/25 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 6/29/25 at 4:26 pm to Ebridg3
quote:Indeed. That would be a start.
Stop arbitrarily limiting the number of doctors that can enter the work force by controlling residency slots
Posted on 6/29/25 at 4:31 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:
The kicker was that once you go out of US system you lose any rights to sue. However, most of these people were out of options and the whole trip cost them about 25% of what the American costs would have been.
Story at 11
Thai doctors work cheaper than US doctors.
Also, a breaking story that the sun rises in the East.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:00 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I know health care is unaffordable, and many who are insured are denied services because it hurts profits.
You really have no clue as to WTF you're talking about. None.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:02 pm to BuckI
Many?
How many legitimate claims are denied to “save profit” in the US?
You just posted like you know about this so have at it.
How many legitimate claims are denied to “save profit” in the US?
You just posted like you know about this so have at it.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:12 pm to roadGator
Know who denies claims at a rate higher than United Healthcare?
Medicaid.
“Claims denial is all about profit!”
Medicaid.
“Claims denial is all about profit!”
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:16 pm to roadGator
Health Insurance companies have been caught discussing how to maximize profits by denying as many claims as possible.
Friends have told me how they were denied medical procedures and medicine because the insurer refused to pay for them.
My uncle was denied a drug to treat his skin cancer because it was new.
Friends have told me how they were denied medical procedures and medicine because the insurer refused to pay for them.
My uncle was denied a drug to treat his skin cancer because it was new.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:17 pm to BuckI
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My uncle was denied a drug to treat his skin cancer because it was new.
Jesus fricking Christ.
You need to sue whatever schools have given you certificates of learning.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:22 pm to The Scofflaw
1) get people eating healthier
2) get people exercising more
3) bust the notion the fat is healthy that the Woke crowd pushes
4) get the uninsured illegals out of our hospitals and country
5) stop mandating coverage for “elective” procedures.
2) get people exercising more
3) bust the notion the fat is healthy that the Woke crowd pushes
4) get the uninsured illegals out of our hospitals and country
5) stop mandating coverage for “elective” procedures.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:25 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Part of the problem with that is it is more expensive to eat like a human than eat the over-processed slop.
No it’s not. This is such a lame bullshite excuse
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:30 pm to rltiger
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Government got involved with Home loans Student loans Healthcare And costs went through the roof.
Exactly. The problem is so clear and obvious. And instead of fixing it people want them to get even MORE involved. It’s straight lunacy
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:32 pm to geauxtigahhhs
You can quickly bring the cost of healthcare down by killing off all the old people.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 5:44 pm to BuckI
quote:You don't "know" that. You 'think' that. But sometimes (even on an anonymous message board) it's best to keep what you 'think' to yourself, lest it be atrociously ignorant as in this instance.
I know .... many who are insured are denied services because it hurts profits.
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