re: How did Obama et al benefit from including pre-existing conditions

Tfag believes you shouldn't have to buy insurance until after you have been diagnosed.

Obamacare led the insurance companies to record profits while the rest of us suffer with insanely high rates and unrealistic deductibles.

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How? How were they "abusing"?

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You obviously are too young to remember or understand. For someone who had a “chronic condition,” such as an existing cardiac condition or hemophilia or any of the multitude of chronic conditions, whenever they would begin a new policy, medical care for that condition was not covered for a year.

Also, most people get insurance through their employment. So, change jobs, you pay full price for your premium and also pay full price medical expenses out of pocket for a year. Change jobs again, another year with no coverage.

You either lost the ability to change jobs, or you lost insurance for medical expenses.

It was complete abuse, because you still paid the premium without coverage. Also, often the new employer had insurance from the same insurer, such as Blue Cross. Despite the fact that you paid the policy premium over the course of both policies, you had no coverage for known and necessary medical expenses.

If that’s your utopia, you can have it.

frick our current insurance based system and frick you

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frick our current insurance

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Mine is stellar personally but I know of several people’s who isn’t.

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and frick you

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Wut?

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If you want health insurance to protect only against unexpected injuries or surprise illness, like insurance on your barn, them you are a moron who has obviously never paid your own bills.

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A healthy person who only visits the doctor once or twice a year is a moron for not wanting to pay $4000 a year so they can save $75 on their office visit? That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

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How? How were they "abusing"?

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Group policies for the most part didn’t have pre-existing condition clauses.

They applied to individual policies because someone would go without insurance and then apply for coverage after getting sick or need knee surgery.

It’s like buying car insurance after getting into an accident.

People could change jobs anyway and not lose coverage because of a provision called a certificate of credible coverage.

Most people don’t know shite about insurance including the one in here popping off.

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Insurance companies

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That’s a huge stretch if not outright false.

They are Welfare Contractors. They make Socialism work - sort of.

Never been a more true statement

First, do you think Obamas goal was to help or hurt the American people?
Go read the Clower Pivens strategy…. Obamas mentors and guidance on his plan.
Those who are in charge when a country collapses get to write the new rules. The goal was to collapse..