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re: How close do we think Iran really was to nukes?

Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:04 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298327 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:04 am to
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America First is not letting other nations have weapons that can end civilization


What a massive contradiction.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:05 am to
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What a massive contradiction.



Seems as the current nuclear powers have been pretty reserved in their uses of them, outside threats from N. Korea.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6261 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:06 am to
Not a contradiction at all. If another country has nukes and their software glitches and/or is hacked by terrorists, whose to say they dont pull the trigger? Creating more points of failure is foolish
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298327 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:07 am to
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Not a contradiction at all.


Absolutely. You simply support the status quo of the US being the worlds bully to maintain total power.

Its expensive and deadly, and creates enemies. Its America last and globalist.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39598 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:10 am to
Could a Cartel purchase a ‘Suitcase’ nuke or Dirty Bomb? This whole thing is about Jihadist Islam holding respect and perceived power in the ME and being regarded on the world stage as legitimate powerbrokers. The Mullahs want the right to enrich uranium just like other sovereign Nations, if they choose. They can have all the ingredients for nuclear weapons at hand without assembly and then claim to not be building nukes. That is like Biden saying that the Border was secure and the Jews won’t fall for that mind game crap. Of course their sworn religious duty to destroy or subjugate the Jews coupled with the martyrdom principle really pushes Israel to act preemptively. Which they are and will continue doing very efficiently.
Posted by BuckeyeGoon
Member since Jan 2025
1132 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:28 am to
Did the ukrainian government ever actually own those nukes though? They were left on their land by the soviets but I doubt the ukrainians had the ability to use and maintain them. They definitely wouldn't have had the money to keep them maintained for 30+ years.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:46 am to
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39822 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 10:50 am to
Trump gave them 60 days, so apparently very close
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2108 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:15 am to
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They just bring this up anew whenever they need to stir up shite in the middle east.


The "diversionary theory of war" posits that presidents might use foreign conflicts to deflect attention from domestic political or economic problems, potentially boosting their approval ratings or influencing elections.

Clinton used it to distract from his sex scandal

Trump in the Epstein files - next week WW3 starts?
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
8471 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:18 am to
They weren’t even developing a nuclear weapon according to our intelligence community as of March 26th.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23651 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:46 am to
Regardless if it was a week, a month, a year, a decade, it doesn't matter.
Why let them get any closer than they were?
Isreal has done the world a favor.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6730 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 11:50 am to
If the IAEA us saying a month or 2, i believe them.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37435 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:00 pm to
The problem with that assertion historically is that we have been told this for at least the last 15 years but they have not produced or obtained one.

They could have purchased one from the Russias, their next door neighbors in Pakistan could have supplied them with the tech...but thus far they've never unveiled it. The Israelis have been threatening to do something for at least that long as well.

I'm not discounting , certainly if they showed off for the world you have a bigger problem. Just seems a bit suspect. I think though the actions last year probably changed the equation because they proved they had some competent delivery system to get a a missile that far.

This may be pre emptive because of improvements made on the missiles more than a concrete knowledge of a real nuclear device.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34934 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Bibi claimed in his live address that they had enriched enough uranium to make 9 nuclear warheads
That enriched uranium needs to be secured.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65274 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:03 pm to
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This was in 2012.

Any day now!
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14222 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:04 pm to
Even the IAEA had to admit they were in violation.


They’ve refused to do that for years.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37435 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:07 pm to
That's my problem. The list above goes back 30 years. Yet, thus far no nuclear weapons.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173470 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:08 pm to
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Even the IAEA had to admit they were in violation

That's pretty much the only thing lending any credibility here
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
11670 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:09 pm to
They've been weeks away from having nukes for over 30 years now.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14222 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 12:16 pm to
Agreed.
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