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re: House Republicans introduce measure to repeal the 17th Amendment
Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:47 pm to GoblinGuide
Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:47 pm to GoblinGuide
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And that made sense when states were more independent entities from the federal government. That's not really the case now.
It's not the case now because the state legislatures surrendered that power to the people, and the Senators voted by the people surrendered state power to the federal government. The Senators were never meant to represent "the people" (hence why the House of Representatives is "the people's house"). The Senators were there to represent the state governments themselves in order to act as a check against federal encroachment on state power. The 17th Amendment removed that check, resulting in federal government power exploding and the states becoming simply pass-through entities for federal entitlement and grant money with little control over policy or how it is spent.
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
This foolishness got enacted because some state legislatures got deadlocked in appointing and approving their Senators. What needed to be done was to force the deadlocks to be broken. For example, after the third deadlocked vote within a limited timespan, new senate candidates had to be picked.
Make it along the lines of a college football overtime.
Make it along the lines of a college football overtime.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:51 pm to RollTide1987
Ahhhhh…..
Only 2 amendments off. Don’t tease me!!
Only 2 amendments off. Don’t tease me!!
Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:53 pm to GoblinGuide
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Senators already advocate for their state under the current system. What's the benefit of returning their selection to state legislatures?
Senators were supposed to represent the state's legislature in Washington. That part was badly weakened. Now, too many just drink the swamp water and become swamp creatures.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 2:59 pm to kingbob
The 19th is the one that needs to go for sure. Women lack the logic needed to make sound political decisions.
My wife has not voted since we got married. We argued about it a lot in the early days, but she has come to trust that I know what's best for our family and doesnt want to run the risk of canceling my vote.
My wife has not voted since we got married. We argued about it a lot in the early days, but she has come to trust that I know what's best for our family and doesnt want to run the risk of canceling my vote.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:00 pm to MasterDigger
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So grifters like Hillary Clinton can't show up to NY for 1mo, claim residency, then usurp the system of representation with Soros style $$ from other states, countries, and world interests.
Sure they can. They would just have to convince a bunch of politicians in the legislature instead of the voters.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:06 pm to Penrod
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Sure they can. They would just have to convince a bunch of politicians in the legislature instead of the voters.
Yes, but that is a longer road to take to try and reach the summit.
Usually, the senate chose a member who had a known track record, agreeable to enough of the different minded representatives, usually someone more aligned with the middle ground of the state.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:08 pm to RandRules
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Looking back through US history at almost every event that constituted the passage of landmark legislation, i.e. bills that had significant national implications and future impact, I noticed one common truth: The amendment, bill, or law was created and pushed by Progressive Democrats.
Pretty sure the 13th, 14th, 15th, and 22nd amendments were promoted by Republicans.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:16 pm to GoblinGuide
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Senators already advocate for their state under the current system. What's the benefit of returning their selection to state legislatures?
They are beholden to the state legislature, which is closer to the people.
Senators will be less likely to get involved in firing Ukrainian prosecutors.
There would likely be more turnover in the senate when senators are appointed by the state legislature.
To name a few.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:19 pm to RollTide1987
I support this.
Always get the 17th and 19th mixed up, at first I was like oh this is going to be good
Always get the 17th and 19th mixed up, at first I was like oh this is going to be good
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:25 pm to deltaland
quote:All in.
abolish the 16th
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:25 pm to RollTide1987
People don’t understand how much we need this. And please for the love of all reverse Citizens United. Make them have to do at least a few things for their normal constituents. The billionaires will manage.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:28 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Can we also get some term limits added to thin out these decrepit crooks?
House Republicans introduce measure to repeal the 17th Amendment
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:42 pm to Darth_Vader
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When senators are selected by the legislature, that senator is going to do what the state legislature wants them to do. Today senators do what their party tells them to do.
You know that they're going to do what their party tells them to do whether we put them into office or the state legislatures do, right?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:44 pm to GoblinGuide
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You know that they're going to do what their party tells them to do whether we put them into office or the state legislatures do, right?
I've told them that a number of times.
They have some belief that the national and State parties haven't merged.
The only thing this would do is prevent midterm election switching of the party in control of congress.
Which would lead to much more aggressive moves by presidents on both sides.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:46 pm to RollTide1987
I have long prayed this would happen and it needs to. It is what separates the two bodies from the very same players.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:47 pm to GoblinGuide
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And that made sense when states were more independent entities from the federal government.
Removing the 17th is WHY states no longer operate as independent from the federal government. The federal government doesn't answer to the states.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:50 pm to GoblinGuide
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Blunting your voice and mine isn't something that should be done lightly.
You are exactly right. Now imagine how your state legislator, that you voted for, feels when his voice gets blunted? A state legislature can certainly put much more pressure on a US Senator than the state citizens.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:53 pm to RollTide1987
Why do you favor the politicians of a state deciding who a senator is instead of ordinary citizens? If you think corruption is present in the current system, it would be tenfold by giving state politians more power
Posted on 1/31/26 at 3:59 pm to Timeoday
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You are exactly right. Now imagine how your state legislator, that you voted for, feels when his voice gets blunted? A state legislature can certainly put much more pressure on a US Senator than the state citizens.
I'll choose supporting the rights of the voters over the rights of politicians every time.
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