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Homelessness is an industry
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:52 am
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:52 am
Think of all that is spent to ‘fix the homeless problem’. That money isn’t given to the bums, it is spent on salaries, programs, and products.
What percentage of people working on ‘fixing’ the problem actually want it solved?
What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?
What percentage of people working on ‘fixing’ the problem actually want it solved?
What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:56 am to weagle1999
From my experience working with a joint church and city outreach program, many of the homeless folks we encountered weren't looking for long-term assistance. Most simply wanted to be left alone, with access to a safe place to stay during extreme cold for a day or two. That was our experience, although I realize it doesn't describe every person's situation.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:56 am to weagle1999
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What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?
First thing to look at in your example would be who is directly and indirectly profiting from buying the needles.... now apply it to all elements of 'curing homelessness'
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:03 am to weagle1999
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That money isn’t given to
You can fill in the blank here and cover virtually any program that involves tax payers' money.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:04 am to Runner1
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From my experience working with a joint church and city outreach program, many of the homeless folks we encountered weren't looking for long-term assistance. Most simply wanted to be left alone, with access to a safe place to stay during extreme cold for a day or two. That was our experience, although I realize it doesn't describe every person's situation.
It’s an industry for the NGOs in between the federal government and the homeless. Pratt ran on this in his campaign, and an acquaintance I know in DC says the same thing.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:16 am to weagle1999
Why single out homelessness ...the vast majority of monies we expend go to salaries and the likes --- the bloated overhead of governance and administration - to include those in the private sector which utilize government contracts for jobs/goods/services.
I work in such a program and we do not accept one cent from local/State/Federal entities for as soon as we do ---- autonomy is right out of the window. Do we abide by rules/regulations/statutes? Absolutely!
I work in such a program and we do not accept one cent from local/State/Federal entities for as soon as we do ---- autonomy is right out of the window. Do we abide by rules/regulations/statutes? Absolutely!
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:20 am to weagle1999
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What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?
Assisted suicide. Population control. These taxpayer funded programs are just part of the bigger agendas of depopulation and governmental overreach.
None of us are immune. You can see that by looking at the toxic fillers used in medications that are prescribed to us for health conditions largely caused by our diets, and the same people approve the toxins and carcinogens put into the food supply that made us sick in the first place. And they want to make it illegal to raise and or harvest your own meat, and/or grow a garden of your own.
It's all spelled out for us all to see. Their overall control is at about 70-80% right now and they're going for gold.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:39 am to weagle1999
Homeless folks are sex trafficked, killed, and harvested for organs.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:39 am to wfallstiger
It is a difficult issue to try to address, especially in the US, because it deals with people, mental disorders, addiction, and behavior, not just structural or institutional design failures.
The individual rights of each American make the current purely legislative approach impractical. Worse, it creates an opaque financial money pit, with many bad actors seeing an opportunity for almost unlimited graft.
We are allocating huge amounts of money at the federal, state, and local levels to "solve" a problem with no clear definition or metric for success, and a topic that tugs at people's heartstrings, so there will be almost limitless funding.
To begin to address the long-term homelessness epidemic would require accepting that we need to curtail the rights of the "unhoused" to force them to receive mental health and/or addiction treatment, and having the facilities available to forcibly house those who refuse treatment or are incapable of functioning in day-to-day society with assistance.
The individual rights of each American make the current purely legislative approach impractical. Worse, it creates an opaque financial money pit, with many bad actors seeing an opportunity for almost unlimited graft.
We are allocating huge amounts of money at the federal, state, and local levels to "solve" a problem with no clear definition or metric for success, and a topic that tugs at people's heartstrings, so there will be almost limitless funding.
To begin to address the long-term homelessness epidemic would require accepting that we need to curtail the rights of the "unhoused" to force them to receive mental health and/or addiction treatment, and having the facilities available to forcibly house those who refuse treatment or are incapable of functioning in day-to-day society with assistance.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:17 pm to weagle1999
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Think of all that is spent to ‘fix the homeless problem’. That money isn’t given to the bums, it is spent on salaries, programs, and products.
Most government social programs are boondoggles or ways to launder money
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:20 pm to weagle1999
quote:yes
Homelessness is an industry that democrats operate
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:21 pm to laxtonto
quote:Mostly because the left facilitates the homelessness and makes sure it thrives in order to make money off it.
It is a difficult issue to try to address, especially in the US, because
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:22 pm to weagle1999
Homelessness is a symptom, not the problem
The problem 95% of time is mental health or substance abuse and often both.
The problem 95% of time is mental health or substance abuse and often both.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:31 pm to weagle1999
This is a really prickly topic.
I don't think people that go into aid work do so to exploit the poor. However, if the poor are provided just enough to survive there is little incentive to get out of poverty. Their basic needs are met.
Similar arguments have been made about international aid. By example, no one can create a sustainable business model to produce clothing or shoes in a country like Gambia because international aid agencies dump used materials into their markets. No one wants to see the poor suffer, but I am not sure these efforts aren't counter productive. I don't have an obvious answer to this problem.
I don't think people that go into aid work do so to exploit the poor. However, if the poor are provided just enough to survive there is little incentive to get out of poverty. Their basic needs are met.
Similar arguments have been made about international aid. By example, no one can create a sustainable business model to produce clothing or shoes in a country like Gambia because international aid agencies dump used materials into their markets. No one wants to see the poor suffer, but I am not sure these efforts aren't counter productive. I don't have an obvious answer to this problem.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:53 pm to Runner1
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From my experience working with a joint church and city outreach program, many of the homeless folks we encountered weren't looking for long-term assistance. Most simply wanted to be left alone, with access to a safe place to stay during extreme cold for a day or two. That was our experience, although I realize it doesn't describe every person's situation.
sounds like my cat.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:00 pm to weagle1999
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What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?
That make a lot of sense... Use the HIV epidemic as a way to keep them using... Genius... instead of getting them treatment, give them needles to prevent them from dying...
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:04 pm to weagle1999
Saying this again and again doesn’t make it true. I thought this as well until I researched this issue.
Most of the those programs have a fixed percentage that can be spent on overhead. The need for supportive services is one of the biggest challenges to resolve. If you build an apartment complex for homeless individuals with mental and drug issues, you need supportive services for those people to make it successful. They’re getting by with paying staff as little as they can, but those costs up over time. In some cases, they have to close the building when they run out of money for the supportive services. I’m sure that some people are scamming the system but they are a small minority.
Most of the those programs have a fixed percentage that can be spent on overhead. The need for supportive services is one of the biggest challenges to resolve. If you build an apartment complex for homeless individuals with mental and drug issues, you need supportive services for those people to make it successful. They’re getting by with paying staff as little as they can, but those costs up over time. In some cases, they have to close the building when they run out of money for the supportive services. I’m sure that some people are scamming the system but they are a small minority.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:10 pm to weagle1999
The Homeless Industrial Complex
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:44 pm to weagle1999
Sure is. For all the NGO’s for all the money thrown at this problem. It’s just a big arse money grab for them and politicians
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:59 pm to weagle1999
quote:Awhile back, California misplaced $28billion (with a B) on homeless programs.
it is spent on salaries, programs, and products.
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