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Homelessness is an industry

Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:52 am
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
3345 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:52 am
Think of all that is spent to ‘fix the homeless problem’. That money isn’t given to the bums, it is spent on salaries, programs, and products.

What percentage of people working on ‘fixing’ the problem actually want it solved?

What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?
Posted by Runner1
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2010
392 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:56 am to
From my experience working with a joint church and city outreach program, many of the homeless folks we encountered weren't looking for long-term assistance. Most simply wanted to be left alone, with access to a safe place to stay during extreme cold for a day or two. That was our experience, although I realize it doesn't describe every person's situation.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8532 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:56 am to
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What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?


First thing to look at in your example would be who is directly and indirectly profiting from buying the needles.... now apply it to all elements of 'curing homelessness'
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3875 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:03 am to
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That money isn’t given to


You can fill in the blank here and cover virtually any program that involves tax payers' money.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
18086 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:04 am to
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From my experience working with a joint church and city outreach program, many of the homeless folks we encountered weren't looking for long-term assistance. Most simply wanted to be left alone, with access to a safe place to stay during extreme cold for a day or two. That was our experience, although I realize it doesn't describe every person's situation.


It’s an industry for the NGOs in between the federal government and the homeless. Pratt ran on this in his campaign, and an acquaintance I know in DC says the same thing.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15964 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:16 am to
Why single out homelessness ...the vast majority of monies we expend go to salaries and the likes --- the bloated overhead of governance and administration - to include those in the private sector which utilize government contracts for jobs/goods/services.

I work in such a program and we do not accept one cent from local/State/Federal entities for as soon as we do ---- autonomy is right out of the window. Do we abide by rules/regulations/statutes? Absolutely!
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38715 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:20 am to
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What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?

Assisted suicide. Population control. These taxpayer funded programs are just part of the bigger agendas of depopulation and governmental overreach.

None of us are immune. You can see that by looking at the toxic fillers used in medications that are prescribed to us for health conditions largely caused by our diets, and the same people approve the toxins and carcinogens put into the food supply that made us sick in the first place. And they want to make it illegal to raise and or harvest your own meat, and/or grow a garden of your own.

It's all spelled out for us all to see. Their overall control is at about 70-80% right now and they're going for gold.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9909 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:39 am to


Homeless folks are sex trafficked, killed, and harvested for organs.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 11:39 am to
It is a difficult issue to try to address, especially in the US, because it deals with people, mental disorders, addiction, and behavior, not just structural or institutional design failures.

The individual rights of each American make the current purely legislative approach impractical. Worse, it creates an opaque financial money pit, with many bad actors seeing an opportunity for almost unlimited graft.

We are allocating huge amounts of money at the federal, state, and local levels to "solve" a problem with no clear definition or metric for success, and a topic that tugs at people's heartstrings, so there will be almost limitless funding.

To begin to address the long-term homelessness epidemic would require accepting that we need to curtail the rights of the "unhoused" to force them to receive mental health and/or addiction treatment, and having the facilities available to forcibly house those who refuse treatment or are incapable of functioning in day-to-day society with assistance.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62172 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:17 pm to
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Think of all that is spent to ‘fix the homeless problem’. That money isn’t given to the bums, it is spent on salaries, programs, and products.


Most government social programs are boondoggles or ways to launder money
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91948 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:20 pm to
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Homelessness is an industry that democrats operate
yes
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91948 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:21 pm to
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It is a difficult issue to try to address, especially in the US, because
Mostly because the left facilitates the homelessness and makes sure it thrives in order to make money off it.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132169 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:22 pm to
Homelessness is a symptom, not the problem

The problem 95% of time is mental health or substance abuse and often both.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10610 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:31 pm to
This is a really prickly topic.

I don't think people that go into aid work do so to exploit the poor. However, if the poor are provided just enough to survive there is little incentive to get out of poverty. Their basic needs are met.

Similar arguments have been made about international aid. By example, no one can create a sustainable business model to produce clothing or shoes in a country like Gambia because international aid agencies dump used materials into their markets. No one wants to see the poor suffer, but I am not sure these efforts aren't counter productive. I don't have an obvious answer to this problem.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57105 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:53 pm to
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From my experience working with a joint church and city outreach program, many of the homeless folks we encountered weren't looking for long-term assistance. Most simply wanted to be left alone, with access to a safe place to stay during extreme cold for a day or two. That was our experience, although I realize it doesn't describe every person's situation.



sounds like my cat.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34349 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:00 pm to
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What if ‘free’ needle giveaways to bums are actually a way to keep the gravy train going?


That make a lot of sense... Use the HIV epidemic as a way to keep them using... Genius... instead of getting them treatment, give them needles to prevent them from dying...
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2249 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:04 pm to
Saying this again and again doesn’t make it true. I thought this as well until I researched this issue.

Most of the those programs have a fixed percentage that can be spent on overhead. The need for supportive services is one of the biggest challenges to resolve. If you build an apartment complex for homeless individuals with mental and drug issues, you need supportive services for those people to make it successful. They’re getting by with paying staff as little as they can, but those costs up over time. In some cases, they have to close the building when they run out of money for the supportive services. I’m sure that some people are scamming the system but they are a small minority.

Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30148 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:10 pm to
The Homeless Industrial Complex

Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18239 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:44 pm to
Sure is. For all the NGO’s for all the money thrown at this problem. It’s just a big arse money grab for them and politicians
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38962 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 1:59 pm to
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it is spent on salaries, programs, and products.

Awhile back, California misplaced $28billion (with a B) on homeless programs.
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