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History: French Revolution
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:41 pm
Do we have any of the same conditions that led to that horrific revolution?
- officials that do anything they want
- no real representation
- constant lies being told to the populous
- censorship
Are there any dangers that we might face something like it in the future?
If so, how can it be avoided?
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
- officials that do anything they want
- no real representation
- constant lies being told to the populous
- censorship
Are there any dangers that we might face something like it in the future?
If so, how can it be avoided?
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:52 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We have the conditions that have led to every revolution or enslavement.
Hopefully we will have a mostly peaceful revolution.
Hopefully we will have a mostly peaceful revolution.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:56 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Only none violent solutions or ideas, please.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:57 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We can work to save it or we can burn it down.
I prefer the former. The second option leads to no USA. The likelihood of success after the latter is small.
I prefer the former. The second option leads to no USA. The likelihood of success after the latter is small.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:59 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We do not yet recognize our enemy.
The politicians are the enforcers for our enemy but the real enemies are the Media and Corporate Oligarchs who both tell the politicians what to do and think.
I can also accept that China tells the media what to do and the Oligarchy feels it will prosper under Global Chinese rule.
The politicians are the enforcers for our enemy but the real enemies are the Media and Corporate Oligarchs who both tell the politicians what to do and think.
I can also accept that China tells the media what to do and the Oligarchy feels it will prosper under Global Chinese rule.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:59 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We see a lot of symptoms, but no. The economic conditions are nowhere near dire end for the ordinary people to get involved yet. In most bloody revolutions that collapse long-standing authoritarian governments, the motivation is hunger. Histronics and peaceful protests are always a part of political discourse by the fringe and the political junkies, but regular people don’t start shooting folks or chopping off heads unless they get to the point where they see their odds of being able to feed themselves and their families are better with drastic action verses the status quo.
Under our current situation, a lot of people and businesses are struggling financially, but we have not yet near reached the hunger tipping point that results in regular, non-political people to get involved trying to topple regimes to get food.
Under our current situation, a lot of people and businesses are struggling financially, but we have not yet near reached the hunger tipping point that results in regular, non-political people to get involved trying to topple regimes to get food.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:00 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We basically also even have a Committee of Public Safety.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:02 pm to kingbob
quote:
but regular people don’t start shooting folks or chopping off heads unless they get to the point where they see their odds of being able to feed themselves and their families are better with drastic action verses the status quo.
Identity politics has made radical strides forward in accelerating the common person into civil disobedience. I don’t anticipate that ratcheting back down.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:04 pm to Zarkinletch416
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:04 pm to GhostOfFreedom
The failure of the revolution was about 'what do we do now?' that caused major infighting. We're gonna have some of that with the Dems. They were totally committed to overthrowing the King. Now, they are going to fight themselves about who is really in charge.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:04 pm to the808bass
It is emboldening action by the fringes and expanding those fringes but actually cooling action by the non-political who are always in the majority. They will only be motivated to action by hunger and the fear of their children starving to death.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:07 pm to kingbob
quote:
We see a lot of symptoms, but no. The economic conditions are nowhere near dire end for the ordinary people to get involved yet.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:11 pm to kingbob
Most revolutions begin when a sizeable group of the population feels that the government either doesn't represent them or is outright persecuting them.....
I would venture to say that some Americans feel that way.
Honestly we need to see the rise of a 3rd party that represents all the people in between the extremes.... Otherwise I fear some form of a revolution may be inevitable.
I would venture to say that some Americans feel that way.
Honestly we need to see the rise of a 3rd party that represents all the people in between the extremes.... Otherwise I fear some form of a revolution may be inevitable.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:13 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
I like the solution where Robespierre tried to kill himself but failed so they tied his jaw together so they could drag him to the guillotine and chop off his head.
Is that too violent?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:13 pm to ElDawgHawg
Read about the German Kapp Putsch in March 1920.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:14 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Do we have any of the same conditions that led to that horrific revolution?
Not really
The first and Second Estate in France paid no taxes and were granted a privileged life under French law. The Third Estate - which was 97% of the population - paid all the taxes and held only 60% of the land.
In the US, the rich pay all the taxes. Not the other way around.
Not to mention, the Third Estate just literally voted the Second Estate back into office. In France, in 1789, the common people loathed the nobility. In the US, the commoners worship the nobility.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:17 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Our majority out of shape, lazy citizens would celebrate being told "let them eat cake".
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:21 pm to bird35
quote:
The politicians are the enforcers for our enemy but the real enemies are the Media and Corporate Oligarchs who both tell the politicians what to do and think.
Now who owns 95 percent of the media? That's your REAL enemy.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:22 pm to wareaglepete
quote:
Our majority out of shape, lazy citizens would celebrate being told "let them eat cake".
This is a good one!
(no cake emoji)Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:25 pm to tgerb8
quote:
We have the conditions that have led to every revolution or enslavement.
Hopefully we will have a mostly peaceful revolution.
This. Pathologically, it’s for all intents and purposes the same as the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, Spanish, Cuban, etc., etc.
There’s a human pathology we don’t yet have an answer for behind all of them.
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