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Here’s what I don’t understand about the Virginia gerrymandering election
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:42 pm
If the Republicans are outnumbered- how were they supposed to win?
Even assuming that Democrats don’t cheat (which they do), there are just more of them in Virginia.
If the alleged Republican majority in Congress wanted to do something about gerrymandering- would it not be possible to amend the statute requiring Congressional districts to require that the districts are drawn to coincide with existing political boundaries (cities, counties, parishes, etc) instead?
Not that Congress or republicans would ever do shite. But if we’re assuming that Democrats didn’t commit fraud, we should make the equally unlikely assumption that Congress would actually do something
Even assuming that Democrats don’t cheat (which they do), there are just more of them in Virginia.
If the alleged Republican majority in Congress wanted to do something about gerrymandering- would it not be possible to amend the statute requiring Congressional districts to require that the districts are drawn to coincide with existing political boundaries (cities, counties, parishes, etc) instead?
Not that Congress or republicans would ever do shite. But if we’re assuming that Democrats didn’t commit fraud, we should make the equally unlikely assumption that Congress would actually do something
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:45 pm to Wednesday
This gerrymander disaster all lies on the SCOTUS who refuses to do anything about it
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:46 pm to Wednesday
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If the Republicans are outnumbered- how were they supposed to win?
If the GOP were outnumbered in VA, it wouldn't have "lost" by less than 1% even though the seats would go 10:1 in favor of the cheating Dems.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:51 pm to Wednesday
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If the alleged Republican majority in Congress wanted to do something about gerrymandering- would it not be possible to amend the statute requiring Congressional districts to require that the districts are drawn to coincide with existing political boundaries (cities, counties, parishes, etc) instead?
Until the VRA laws are repealed or scaled back by the USSC, this wouldn't be legal.
And I'm all for making districts more purple, but partisans and politicians are not. It's too risky for them and will make election results, parties, and caucuses too unstable.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:52 pm to IMSA_Fan
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This gerrymander disaster all lies on the SCOTUS who refuses to do anything about it
There's nothing they can do.
This went into overdrive following the 2010 census, too, when a brilliant GOP strategist figured out it was a lot cheaper to influence state races to then gerrymander federally. Then this went into overdrive recently and it doesn't appear to be slowing down anytime soon.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:53 pm to Wednesday
Taking away the areas not close to DC is what is looking to be done. Those areas were not overly inundated with leftist but rather more deplorables
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:54 pm to IMSA_Fan
quote:It's only a disaster if it's unilateral.
This gerrymander disaster all lies on the SCOTUS who refuses to do anything about it
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:56 pm to Wednesday
Downvote if you want, but this is on Trump. He has some people convinced of his ability to play 8-D chess, but really, he can't play 2-D, or even 1-D. He has a complete inability to think more than one move ahead and his bitching at Texas to redistrict in his favor is backfiring big time. Any reasonably politically aware person could have thought this out and realized where this would head. But not Trump!
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
They had their chance to strike it down as unconstitutional via voter disenfranchisement but choose not in NC case
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:01 pm to Wednesday
They stole it through mail in ballots. It’s blatantly obvious when they win mail in with 70+ percent and in person they lose
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:03 pm to IMSA_Fan
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They had their chance to strike it down as unconstitutional via voter disenfranchisement but choose not in NC case
It was the proper ruling.
The entire concept of "gerrymandering" is difficult from a Constitutional perspective, because it requires a bunch of assumptions to be static when they're fluid in reality.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:33 pm to Wednesday
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If the alleged Republican majority in Congress wanted to do something about gerrymandering- would it not be possible to amend the statute requiring Congressional districts to require that the districts are drawn to coincide with existing political boundaries (cities, counties, parishes, etc) instead?
No, because of the filibuster.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:34 pm to NC_Tigah
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It's only a disaster if it's unilateral.
It has always been bilateral, and its a complete disaster for representative government.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:38 pm to Indefatigable
Blame SCOTUS. They allowed and encouraged this with their previous rulings about gerrymandering. They said it was none of their (SCOTUS) business.
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Supreme Court of the United States
Argued March 26, 2019
Decided June 27, 2019
Rucho v. Common Cause, No. 18-422, 588 U.S. 684 (2019) is a landmark case of the United States Supreme Court concerning partisan gerrymandering. The Court ruled that while partisan gerrymandering may be "incompatible with democratic principles", the federal courts cannot review such allegations, as they present nonjusticiable political questions outside the jurisdiction of these courts.
The case was one of three heard in the 2018 term dealing with issues related to partisan gerrymandering used in the districting plans of states. It was combined with Rucho v. League of Women Voters of North Carolina, and its decision included the Court's judgment on Lamone v. Benisek, a partisan gerrymandering case from Maryland.
1 vote the other way and this nonsense could be stopped or at least extremes like Virginia coud be stopped. But by 1 vote said "not our problem".
LINK
Supreme Court of the United States
Argued March 26, 2019
Decided June 27, 2019
Rucho v. Common Cause, No. 18-422, 588 U.S. 684 (2019) is a landmark case of the United States Supreme Court concerning partisan gerrymandering. The Court ruled that while partisan gerrymandering may be "incompatible with democratic principles", the federal courts cannot review such allegations, as they present nonjusticiable political questions outside the jurisdiction of these courts.
The case was one of three heard in the 2018 term dealing with issues related to partisan gerrymandering used in the districting plans of states. It was combined with Rucho v. League of Women Voters of North Carolina, and its decision included the Court's judgment on Lamone v. Benisek, a partisan gerrymandering case from Maryland.
1 vote the other way and this nonsense could be stopped or at least extremes like Virginia coud be stopped. But by 1 vote said "not our problem".
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:41 pm to Eurocat
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The Court ruled that while partisan gerrymandering may be "incompatible with democratic principles", the federal courts cannot review such allegations, as they present nonjusticiable political questions outside the jurisdiction of these courts.
This is correct, btw. They are political questions--which are reserved to the other branches and the States themselves.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:27 pm to Indefatigable
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This is correct, btw. They are political questions--which are reserved to the other branches and the States themselves.
People bitch about judicial activism and then bitch when teh court correctly restrains itself.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:33 pm to Eurocat
The greatest flaw in the Constitution is that the Framers designed it assuming factions could be checked by structural safeguards, never anticipating that organized political parties would become the primary vehicle through which power is actually exercised. Today, parties coordinate across branches in ways that collapse the separation of powers — a unified party controlling the presidency and Congress renders checks and balances largely theoretical, while a divided one produces gridlock the Framers never designed a remedy for. Nearly every modern constitutional dysfunction, from gerrymandering to judicial confirmation wars to the weaponization of the filibuster, traces back to this single blind spot.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:27 pm to IMSA_Fan
If Virginias were smart to-morrow they would start a petition to recall their governor
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:41 pm to Wednesday
More house seats for dems?
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:43 pm to Wednesday
100%. People blaming the amount of money spent after the whole state just elected one of the most left wing governors in the country. I'm shocked it was as close as it was.
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