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re: Help on this question in my daughter's AP US History class.
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:50 pm to Suck Out West
Posted on 8/31/23 at 11:50 pm to Suck Out West
So a history class is examining if our history of slavery, and the subsequent development of the social and economic dynamics that we see today, impacts how police deal with black people? And this doesn’t make sense to you?
I suspect you didn’t do well in school.
I suspect you didn’t do well in school.
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:13 am to reddy tiger
A so-called intellectual freaking teacher can word salad anything into having a correlation.
The most important lesson you can teach your kids is how to recognize bullshite and also realize that it can come from anyone, even those society tries to say you should respect.
The most important lesson you can teach your kids is how to recognize bullshite and also realize that it can come from anyone, even those society tries to say you should respect.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 12:13 am
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:28 am to reddy tiger
You forget, slavery didn't exist before the UK colonized the US, and a country (the US) that didn't have money to spare, sent six frigates to interrupt the trade. We burned our own ship in Tripoli (well, a bunch of really brave assholes did, and I mean that in the kindest terms,) in pursuit of ending the slave trade.
But yeah, go to a Gulf country, and ask how many of the Asian workers have possession of their passports to this day. Idiots.
But yeah, go to a Gulf country, and ask how many of the Asian workers have possession of their passports to this day. Idiots.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:32 am to Suck Out West
So all the black on black killing, that happens daily across our country, can be blamed on the founding fathers?
When bullets start flying and folks start dying at so-called "block parties" should we assume the founding fathers caused this?
It's time for these "woke" idiots to go back to sleep!
When bullets start flying and folks start dying at so-called "block parties" should we assume the founding fathers caused this?
It's time for these "woke" idiots to go back to sleep!
Posted on 9/1/23 at 7:57 am to Suck Out West
Our present Constitution is a Miracle.
It is a miracle that it even happened and I believe that God took a personal hand in it.
I would urge that everyone read the Federalists Papers. You will be purview to the twists and turns on how our Constitution developed.
Remember this is not our first constitution, the first one was the Articles of Confederation.
Also remember that the development of farming (some 6000 years ago) led to the creation of slavery. Give thanks to Cyrus McCormick for the mechanization of farming.
It is a miracle that it even happened and I believe that God took a personal hand in it.
I would urge that everyone read the Federalists Papers. You will be purview to the twists and turns on how our Constitution developed.
Remember this is not our first constitution, the first one was the Articles of Confederation.
Also remember that the development of farming (some 6000 years ago) led to the creation of slavery. Give thanks to Cyrus McCormick for the mechanization of farming.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:03 am to reddy tiger
quote:
and the subsequent development of the social and economic dynamics that we see today, impacts how police deal with black people?
Why do you feel racism was involved with George Floyd's case?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:09 am to reddy tiger
quote:I suspect you were doing drugs in the back room with a che guevara looking dick person equally as wretched as yourself.
I suspect you didn’t do well in school.
You really should reconsider this schtick you have of intellectual supremacy - you are quite the moron and it all rings less than hollow all the way to nonexistent
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:14 am to OchoDedos
It's AP. They're not looking for a wrong or right answer. They're grading on the quality of the writing and on the presentation of the argument. It's like debate . . . you can take either side. They're using current events to probe the question of how slavery and human rights for minorities was handled by the founders.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:25 am to jawnybnsc
quote:They died four years ago - in Democrat controlled jurisdictions
jawnybnsc
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:31 am to jawnybnsc
quote:
It's AP. They're not looking for a wrong or right answer. They're grading on the quality of the writing and on the presentation of the argument.
If police can be racist surely teachers can have extreme political biases.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:39 am to Suck Out West
quote:
"Protests which occurred in the United States during the summer of 2020 after the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor can be partially blamed on the Founding Fathers' handling of the slavery question back in 1789.
I don't think I ever took a US history class that got much further past the Civil War
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:56 am to reddy tiger
quote:
So a history class is examining if our history of slavery, and the subsequent development of the social and economic dynamics that we see today, impacts how police deal with black people? And this doesn’t make sense to you?
Absolutely not. Neither slavery nor Jim Crow caused George Floyd to become an addict, to commit armed robbery, etc. Those were all choices he made. If he made them with the mindset of "because slavery", that too is his own doing.
George Floyd's death was due primarily to his being a drug addict and career criminal, his death was secondarily due to encountering a shitty cop while attempting to commit a crime. To some extent, see also: Tony Timpa.
All such "conversations" do is to seek to discard the person's responsibility for putting themselves in that situation solely for the sake of riding the "racism" train. The growth in this push is why poor, black communities continue to be more unsafe rather than less (ie: the DEI narrative of "whites are always oppressors, blacks are always victims").
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:04 am to Jimbeaux
quote:Yes, I am familiar with the details of the 3/5 Compromise.
I want to make sure of where you are going with this question. You DO realize that the slave-holding states WANTED to count slaves (100%) for purposes of representation, but the free-states DID NOT WANT them counted
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:08 am to Gus007
quote:Why this incessant need to exagerate.
The largest Slave owner in Louisiana, Antoine Dubuclet
Yes, Dubuclet was of African descent. Yes, he was a wealthy plantation owner. Yes, he owned a large number of slaves (between 70 and 100, depending upon your source). Yes, he was probably (at one point) the largest BLACK slaveholder in Louisiana.
No, he was not REMOTELY the largest OVERALL slaveholder in Louisiana. Dozens of White men (and women in a few cases) owned more.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:12 am to Cheese Grits
quote:He was courted by BOTH the Dems and the GOP, because he was NOT very political.quote:A real Republican at that, not like many since 1980 who have know clue of what it is to be a Republican.
Ike was a Republican.
90% of the posters on this forum would consider him a "RINO."
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:13 am to Naked Bootleg
quote:McAfee says that site has AIDS.
The Founding Fathers & Slavery
You'll find some "disagree" justifications there
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:13 am to Azkiger
Again . . . I took AP classes and on any given question you can argue the affirmative or the negative. Any of you morons ever take a debate class?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:19 am to Suck Out West
Like it's been said before...it's a trap question.
The teacher is feeling out who are the sheep and who are free thinkers. If your daughter answers anything of the truth (which IMHO it has NOTHING to do with slavery), then the teacher will label her (racist, problem child, etc). If you daughter complies with the question and answers the way the teacher wants...then she'll be labeled as a sheep and expected to comply with the teacher's opinions and one mis-step could send her grades tumbling in that class. One way to avoid the trap is state arguments for both sides of the answer but speak in vague and non-committal statements. But showing both sides of the story...even if you agree or disagree with the statements.
The teacher is feeling out who are the sheep and who are free thinkers. If your daughter answers anything of the truth (which IMHO it has NOTHING to do with slavery), then the teacher will label her (racist, problem child, etc). If you daughter complies with the question and answers the way the teacher wants...then she'll be labeled as a sheep and expected to comply with the teacher's opinions and one mis-step could send her grades tumbling in that class. One way to avoid the trap is state arguments for both sides of the answer but speak in vague and non-committal statements. But showing both sides of the story...even if you agree or disagree with the statements.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:23 am to Suck Out West
quote:
"Protests which occurred in the United States during the summer of 2020 after the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor can be partially blamed on the Founding Fathers' handling of the slavery question back in 1789.
totally disagree.
no accountability for individuals today has nothing to do with what took place centuries past.
same as 'reparations' for blacks today. ridiculous.
the Native Americans have been decimated by the US government and still have the boot on their neck.
where is the great concern for the Red Man?
communism is a great evil and should be put down at all costs.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 9:27 am to shinerfan
quote:You are mistaken. It accounts for the majority of the slave OWNERS, because a person in this category owned only a few slaves. It did not account for the majority of SLAVES owned by Blacks, because the Black plantation owners owned dozens of slaves apiece.
They've recently come out with this talking point of how black slave ownership was almost wholly a matter of freed slaves purchasing their own family members and somehow being legally unable to free them. Of course this is bullshite and makes up an insignificant portion of black slave owners
We are also on a Louisiana website, and Louisiana was a bit unique on this point. There were far MORE Black slaveholders in Louisiana per capita than elsewhere, for about a dozen reasons mostly related to settlement patterns and the French system.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 9:44 am
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