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re: Hegseth orders 20% reduction in senior military leadership

Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:45 pm to
I mentioned proven skills, they probably don’t have a clue how to Sammich food. On the other hand they probably can maximize their 3some sammich skills
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95632 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:45 pm to
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The Louisiana National Guard has four general officers right now.


MG Tommy Friloux
BG Mike Greer
BG Jason (not Judd) Mahfouz
BG Shawn Coco (Air Force)

And in recent memory, there were 2 brigade command slots and the director of the joint staff filled with generals. I kind of have a faint memory of a second AF general, maybe the air staff director.

IOW, I don't know if 4 is the full allotment in 2025. Might be.


This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Woobie
Member since Jan 2017
3348 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:52 pm to
they have about 6

the ones you mentioned plus a go slot for aviation and ang

whatever will they do when they shrink from a squad sized element of go’s to a fire team
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2299 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:52 pm to
So, we are supposed to be getting ready for China, at a time when we refuse to acknowledge the Russians as a threat, and we are adding tens of billions of dollars to the Defense Budget, yet we are cutting the guys who actually plan and coordinate this stuff....?

It's not enough to make cuts - you have to make the RIGHT CUTS and the people doing so have no experience in this area. This looks good as a front page headline, I don't have so much faith in it in practice.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7917 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:05 pm to
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Them women “leaders” are about to experience the need for a proven skill


At least 20% male and female officers in the navy desk jockeyed their way up to flag.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:08 pm to
Good!!!
Tax payers are being raped by the DoD. Check this out from Grok:
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Comparison:
Today: ~39–44 four-star officers (all branches), with ~13 in the Army alone.

World War II: ~22 four-star officers (Army and Navy combined), with 13 in the Army.

The total number of four-star officers today is roughly double that during World War II, despite the military being significantly smaller now (1.3 million troops today vs. 12 million during WWII). This reflects a higher ratio of senior officers per troop today (1:1,400) compared to WWII (1:6,000).


Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:10 pm to
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So, we are supposed to be getting ready for China, at a time when we refuse to acknowledge the Russians as a threat, and we are adding tens of billions of dollars to the Defense Budget, yet we are cutting the guys who actually plan and coordinate this stuff....?


See my post above. WWII generals say, " hold my beer"!.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7917 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:49 pm to
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It's not enough to make cuts - you have to make the RIGHT CUTS and the people doing so have no experience in this area. This looks good as a front page headline, I don't have so much faith in it in practice.


WTF?

There is so much dead wood, people who cut their teeth on Iraq.

The next generation needs time to get promoted.

Senior Officers today are the battleship and trenches class of WW2.

Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:01 pm to
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So, we are supposed to be getting ready for China, at a time when we refuse to acknowledge the Russians as a threat, and we are adding tens of billions of dollars to the Defense Budget, yet we are cutting the guys who actually plan and coordinate this stuff....? It's not enough to make cuts - you have to make the RIGHT CUTS and the people doing so have no experience in this area. This looks good as a front page headline, I don't have so much faith in it in practice.


Have you ever heard of too many chiefs and not enough injuns? If not, then you should never be in control of staffing, ever.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108971 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:06 pm to
You are severely hampered by stupid. I wish you the best as it must be a heavy burden for you to carry.
Posted by Furious
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2023
1329 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:25 pm to
This is his way of getting of the left wing leadership without saying it
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3832 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 11:21 pm to
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This is his way of getting of the left wing leadership without saying it


Two birds, one stone.
Posted by stelly1025
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:18 am to
A decade overdue.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7832 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:52 am to
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palantir/Epirus/ShieldAI/etc stock

Got others to diversify MIC wise, on the cheap now, as these 2 aren't traded stock yet?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7832 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:59 am to
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Leopold
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Occupation: Army officer

Sounds like someone is worried his career path grift is becoming harder/drying up.

If you deserve it, and worth a lick, then prove it and I'm sure you'll benefit from this move.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2908 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:08 am to
not possible was told by several poli board posters pete's departure was imminent.

you want an example of rank inflation in top gun the head of top gun was mike metcalf call sign viper rank was commander, top gun maverick top gun commander was beau simpson a rear admiral.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20204 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:23 am to
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So, we are supposed to be getting ready for China, at a time when we refuse to acknowledge the Russians as a threat, and we are adding tens of billions of dollars to the Defense Budget, yet we are cutting the guys who actually plan and coordinate this stuff....?

It's not enough to make cuts - you have to make the RIGHT CUTS and the people doing so have no experience in this area. This looks good as a front page headline, I don't have so much faith in it in practice.


Jesus Christ what are you blathering about? Russian is not a threat to the United States in a conventional war. Secondly we now have less troops and like 3 times the flag officers than what we had in WWII. In fact the Army has more 1 star generals than the Marines have Colonels and yet the Marines are a much more efficient fighting force. To put it simply, which I think you need, to many chefs screw up the meal!
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55492 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:32 am to
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The Navy has 270 Admirals and 470 ships, 1 Admiral for every 1.74 ships.

Right, that’s why 20% is not nearly enough. There were only 233 Admirals in all of WW2, and that was not all at the same time. It’s welfare for rich bureaucrats.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95632 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:34 am to
I cannot find Lawrence Sellin's article, only references to it. He wrote it for UPI and it was published on Wired.com and Breitbart, but I can only find references to it in other articles or dead links.

Regardless, I served with COL Sellin. I was in the old days version of "Zoom" meetings with him. He is a PhD Green Beret and just one of the sharpest, straightest shooters you ever want to meet. His description of what was going on in CUBs in the combat theaters, circa 2010 was spot on. The objective of the conflict, apparently, was to produce every more colorful powerpoint presentations for cognitively challenged general officers.

I really can't do it justice here, but it was Monty Python/Douglas Adams quality satire of a real trauma that many of us experienced first hand. I wish I could link the actual article, but I can't find it. He also goes into the rapid expansion of headquarters elements with no real role in warfighting, so this "death by powerpoint" became their only real function. And, further, that they had to create stovepipes to get the real data up to senior leaders and, ultiamtely, stovepipes-within-stovepipes.

Now retired, Dr. Lawrence Sellin is a great man.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 9:20 am
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9142 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:38 am to
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The Louisiana National Guard


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