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re: “He held fast to the belief that vaccines caused autism…
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:02 pm to MemphisGuy
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:02 pm to MemphisGuy
they have done studies in Denmark that compares vaccinated and unvaccined children and found no difference in the rate of autism groups.
Japan has done studies on regressive autism, and didn’t find any change in the rate of occurrence in the months before,‘immediately after or significantly after the MMR injection.
Regressive autism usually happens between 1-2, when kids get vaccines. Some kids will absolutely start regressing within days and weeks of the MMR vaccine, but some kids will regress before they get their MMR vaccine.
Japan has done studies on regressive autism, and didn’t find any change in the rate of occurrence in the months before,‘immediately after or significantly after the MMR injection.
Regressive autism usually happens between 1-2, when kids get vaccines. Some kids will absolutely start regressing within days and weeks of the MMR vaccine, but some kids will regress before they get their MMR vaccine.
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:09 pm to udtiger
The timing is suspect, and the level of correlation is disturbing. But you'll never know the truth because an honest study on this would never be allowed to happen.
The only way we'll know is if vaccine requirements are lifted and you start to eventually see these neurodevelopmental diagnoses in children dip.
The only way we'll know is if vaccine requirements are lifted and you start to eventually see these neurodevelopmental diagnoses in children dip.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:23 pm to PurpleandGeauld
PurpleandGeauld, I'm so sorry to hear that. That is awful. It is amazing how this increase has occured. I need to dig up numbers on this. What happened?
I'm GenX, 1972, and I never heard of autism till the 90's/2000's. Seems like at some point later in GenX is when this started happening.
I'm GenX, 1972, and I never heard of autism till the 90's/2000's. Seems like at some point later in GenX is when this started happening.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:25 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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My son, pr
Mine too.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:28 pm to SammyTiger
In Belgium, infants are only required to take the Polio vaccine. In Japan, there are zero required vaccines - only recommended/voluntary. We shoot up our babies with more stuff than almost any nation on earth.
Until a real study is done here, we'll never truly know.
Until a real study is done here, we'll never truly know.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:35 pm to Meauxjeaux
Autism is a neurodevelopmental brain disorder. The workings of the brain itself remain widely unknown even today.
That said, there have been studies conducted that show a correlation between vaccines and subsequent studies that claim to debunk the conclusion. My question is, "who funded the studies for each side?"
Surely there was something to gain on both sides of the argument. Right? I'm not inclined to discount Kennedy's belief any more than believe and trust science.
That said, there have been studies conducted that show a correlation between vaccines and subsequent studies that claim to debunk the conclusion. My question is, "who funded the studies for each side?"
Surely there was something to gain on both sides of the argument. Right? I'm not inclined to discount Kennedy's belief any more than believe and trust science.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:45 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Until a real study is done here, we'll never truly know.
what qualifies as a “real study”
There are stufies in denmark that look at 450-650k kids
A study in Montreal saw autism rates continue to rise, as they are everywhere, and that wasn’t affected by banning Thimerosal and didn’t change at all with a decrease in kids getting the MMR vaccine.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:54 pm to SammyTiger
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Until a real study is done here, we'll never truly know.
Mercury used as a type of preservative in some vaccines absolutely have been linked to autism.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Is that really the case? Did science really debunk this?
Yes there was one fake study and the dude basically faked data and lied to show a link. Many studies done since have debunked it.....no one has been able to reproduce results showing a link
Posted on 3/13/25 at 2:58 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Cassidy in other hearings had lamented that further research on vaccines and autism would be a waste of time and money."
We can do research on how fast a shrimp can walk but a study on vaccines gets attacked by the baby killer party. Should tell you all you need to know.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:02 pm to KingOrange
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Mercury used as a type of preservative in some vaccines absolutely have been linked to autism.
Multiple countries have banned thimerosal in vaccines and none of seen a decrease in autism after they banned of phased it out.
We have seen a rise in autism while also seeing a decline in vaccine rates.
countries with public health databases can do absolutely massive comparative studies and the numbers just don’t support actual links.
because if vaccines were causing autism, you’d see a higher rate of autism in vaccinated children.
if the mercury in thimerosal was causing it, you’d see a decrease in autism in countries that stopped using it, but you don’t.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:16 pm to omegaman66
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We can do research on how fast a shrimp can walk but a study on vaccines gets attacked by the baby killer party. Should tell you all you need to know.
there are many many many studies on vaccines.
yall just don’t want to read them.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:20 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Same in my situation. My 17yr was a happy jovial baby, after getting his MMR vaccine he spiked a fever and stayed in hospital for a day or so. After that, his eyes were blank. He’s non verbal and currently at the level of a 5 year old in a 6’2 200lb body.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:21 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Did science really debunk this?
There's no way science could have legitimately debunked it because the vaccine injury reporting in the United States is highly, highly, highly corrupt.
Pretty much any time a child is injured by a vaccine in America the connection between the injury and the vaccine is denied and therefore not reported as an injury. This includes injuries that could potentially have led to autism.
So really, we don't know.
But as I kept telling people during COVID, the obvious politics and pressure from the authorities to toe the line is nothing new. Vaccine injuries and the overstating the effectiveness of the vaccines and the attempts to force people to take them were always there. What was missing was people resisting them, so it wasn't so obvious.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:22 pm to udtiger
And this is why you should have the freedom to get them or not and never be forced to get them.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:22 pm to nastywideouts
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Same in my situation. My 17yr was a happy jovial baby, after getting his MMR vaccine he spiked a fever and stayed in hospital for a day or so. After that, his eyes were blank. He’s non verbal and currently at the level of a 5 year old in a 6’2 200lb body.
And was it ever considered that the vaccine caused the problem, or did they tell you it was a coincidence?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:23 pm to theballguy
people do opt out of vaccines.
their kids just get autism at the same rate as people who’s kids do.
their kids just get autism at the same rate as people who’s kids do.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:29 pm to wackatimesthree
Not by any medical professional we saw. They would just mmmhmmm when we told them. Unfortunately we moved to another state right before that round of shots. So his new pediatrician had no reference to his previous disposition.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:36 pm to SammyTiger
did a fairly deep dive into it years ago. actually founded a charity for autistic kids. to be clear - i'm not a doctor or expert on the topic.
my opinion? several points. one, imo it was more prevalent than most realized decades ago, just undiagnosed. most were just written off as weird kids. in turn, diagnosis has improved, so more kids receive the diagnosis. third, and perhaps most important, a diagnosis can open lots of doors for funding - for kids, schools and programs. while plenty are what i'd call "clear" cases, in some ways its akin to firbomyalgia (sp?) - it's difficult to prove someone doesn't have it. thus, you see a fair amount of incorrect diagnosis, whether intentional or not
my opinion? several points. one, imo it was more prevalent than most realized decades ago, just undiagnosed. most were just written off as weird kids. in turn, diagnosis has improved, so more kids receive the diagnosis. third, and perhaps most important, a diagnosis can open lots of doors for funding - for kids, schools and programs. while plenty are what i'd call "clear" cases, in some ways its akin to firbomyalgia (sp?) - it's difficult to prove someone doesn't have it. thus, you see a fair amount of incorrect diagnosis, whether intentional or not
Posted on 3/13/25 at 3:38 pm to SammyTiger
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hey have done studies in Denmark that compares vaccinated and unvaccined children and found no difference in the rate of autism groups.
Look at the number of vaccines required in Denmark Vs the US.
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