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re: Have you ever seen a politician commit political suicide more pathetically than RDS?
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:41 pm to Jjdoc
Posted on 7/8/23 at 6:41 pm to Jjdoc
Let’s say Trump pulls it out and gets re-elected - what do you think is more likely?
He pulls it off and takes down the establishment/Deep State or people are so riddled with TDS, no one works with him, and no lasting legislation/policy in this direction happens?
He pulls it off and takes down the establishment/Deep State or people are so riddled with TDS, no one works with him, and no lasting legislation/policy in this direction happens?
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:49 pm to lsuguy84
quote:This. But it seem only-trumpets care more about Trump than accomplishing anything.
The other problem is, the Dems are 100% more organized and lock in step together. The Republican party is in shambles right now. They hate each other, can’t work together, and don’t seem to have a long term vision. It’s not sustainable. If something doesn’t change, we’re going to be stacking L’s for the foreseeable future.
It's pretty funny. Last time, Trump got some minor impermanent things done (that Biden immediately undid) with a cabinet that looked like a RNC convention floor.
Only Trumpers say: "he'll get them next time!!" Which, ironically is the motto of the GOP (that they call 'cucks').
I'm dreading 4 more years of Biden.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:51 pm to tigereye58
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I actually think that RD has played everything perfect.
I don’t know what Ron or any candidate can do at this point? He could play everything perfect and he would still be down big. Trump has a stranglehold on the Republican nomination. I think Ron is biding his time and waiting for something to happen between now and the primary. These establishment people will do anything to be rid of Trump. Any action justifies the means to them. Trump has broken them mentally.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:54 pm to CrimsonChaos
quote:That's because it's not understandable. The election season hasn't even started yet. Trumpers are declaring Desantis "dead" because it's how they cope.
I will NEVER understand this argument.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:55 pm to CrimsonChaos
Most politicians trick Americans in to believing they are likable. Rob just got bad advice, didn't care, and gambled on Trump going to jail and is waaaay down.
What we've seen is the more Rob has gotten out there and schmoozed Americans, the more they seem to dislike him. I'm actually pretty shocked to be honest. Surely he's not that big of a douche.
What we've seen is the more Rob has gotten out there and schmoozed Americans, the more they seem to dislike him. I'm actually pretty shocked to be honest. Surely he's not that big of a douche.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:57 pm to Jjdoc
quote:The dems control the media, and thus the narrative. And ten vote en bloc. No way comparable.
The dems went through this too.
quote:Unfortunately, the only-Trumps will only agree to vote for Trump. That's not a platform. It's not an agenda. And it sure as hell isn't a mandate.
The issue is what we can all agree upon
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:02 pm to Eli Goldfinger
The Ron bois on here are a pathetic lot
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:07 pm to 19
It really is too bad one cannot destroy the establishment by hurling insults at them.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:07 pm to tigereye58
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I actually think that RD has played everything perfect
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:08 pm to tigereye58
It's over. All but the Desantis and Jon Ham tears.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:36 pm to Boks
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Most politicians trick Americans in to believing they are likable. Rob just got bad advice, didn't care, and gambled on Trump going to jail and is waaaay down. What we've seen is the more Rob has gotten out there and schmoozed Americans, the more they seem to dislike him. I'm actually pretty shocked to be honest. Surely he's not that big of a douche.
That’s ^^^ a helluva post …..pretty much spot on.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:41 pm to Bass Tiger
Serious question. Have you changed medications in the past 6 months?
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:52 pm to lsuguy84
quote:
Let’s say Trump pulls it out and gets re-elected - what do you think is more likely?
He pulls it off and takes down the establishment/Deep State or people are so riddled with TDS, no one works with him, and no lasting legislation/policy in this direction happens?
It's not going to be the first one. As someone already pointed out on one of these threads, when "Lock Her Up," turned into "Too Divisive," anyone with two working brain cells knew all that "Drain The Swamp" nonsense was just talk.
As for the 2nd possibility, there won't be any lasting legislation no matter who wins. The legislative brach has become exactly what Jim Garrison predicted decades ago: a public debating body and no more.
Which may not be such a bad thing. I can't really remember the last time they passed legislation that I was excited or hopeful about. Can you?
But I digress.
The POTUS doesn't have many ways to really influence the direction of the country, although those limited options do have reach. We're already seeing the effects of having a Republican in office last time appointing judges, for example.
Appointing judges, CIC of the military, oversee enforcement of law and appoint heads of agencies, and executive orders. Only one of those powers necessarily extends beyond the term.
At this point I don't think it's about advancing a conservative agenda anymore. I think it's just about trying to limit or delay the march toward leftism. We want the ball, but not so we can score on offense (we can't, or won't). We want to hold the ball to keep the other team from scoring on offense.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:55 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I've always said he should wait till 2024. I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination but I never saw any road to that happening.
People are pissed about what the government is doing to Trump. He can't lose the GOP primary. Can he lose the general election? Maybe so, but if people vote to reelect Biden I will be absolutely shocked.
People are pissed about what the government is doing to Trump. He can't lose the GOP primary. Can he lose the general election? Maybe so, but if people vote to reelect Biden I will be absolutely shocked.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:03 pm to wackatimesthree
I say this generally, not directed at any specific person, but it’s up to adults to be reasonable in attaching rational and logical meanings and expectations to the mere three word, seemingly simplistic concept of “drain the swamp.” Assign it a ridiculously unrealistic definition of success at your own peril.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:05 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
He can't lose the GOP primary. Can he lose the general election? Maybe so, but if people vote to reelect Biden I will be absolutely shocked.
First of all, of course he can lose the primary. The convention is over a year away still. Hell, he might be in prison come time for the convention. Even if not, the vast majority of people who vote in primaries aren't even paying attention yet, and won't be for probably 6-9 more months.
Second, if Trump is the nominee and Biden doesn't win (assuming he runs), I'LL be absolutely shocked.
Those of you who don't realize what a gigantic uphill battle Trump will have in the general election are seriously out of touch.
Why do you think the left wants him to run so badly? They know this. The entire campaign will be just like that CNN Town Hall in which even a 20-something bimbo was able to lead Trump around by the nose with the greatest of ease and get him to keep talking about Jan 6 and the classified material.
Why do y'all not understand that John and Jane Q. Public don't see a victimized martyr every time that gets discussed, like so many here, they see a crook and a loose cannon?
Instead of being a referendum on Biden, it will end up being a referendum on Trump, and Trump will do nothing to stop that and will, in fact, help that happen.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:07 pm to davyjones
quote:
I say this generally, not directed at any specific person, but it’s up to adults to be reasonable in attaching rational and logical meanings and expectations to the mere three word, seemingly simplistic concept of “drain the swamp.” Assign it a ridiculously unrealistic definition of success at your own peril.
So if it doesn't mean that Trump will get revenge on his enemies in the fashion that has been predicted so often on this board, what do you think it means? What's a reasonable definition?
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:08 pm to VolcanicTiger
quote:
onna tell y’all what Ron DeSanctimonious done did wrong
quote:
EXACTLY what you Ronbois have been doing.
Reality is, the vast majority on here (myself included) are absolute neophites when it comes to the political world
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:13 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Trump is a child full of contention
Posted on 7/8/23 at 9:21 pm to rmnldr
quote:
Yet no one can explain what is being done that's hurting him
“I can’t believe how bad it is!”
“Explain.”
“……”
Every damn day nothing but hot air.
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