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re: Has anyone ever ruined their career as fast as this Destiny streamer/ influencer?

Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10459 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:54 pm to
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I dont believe I said anything to the contrary.


Then what was the significance of stressing how consistent he was?

What was the point of the post, if not to partially defend the guy's actions?
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31764 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:16 pm to
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Then what was the significance of stressing how consistent he was? What was the point of the post, if not to partially defend the guy's actions?


I actually agree with the sentiment. At first when I heard him on Tim Pool I thought he was a well intentioned idiot.

After I heard more of him I just thought he was delusional.

If you think a dude is as evil as Hitler, wishing him (or his followers) death, it’s morally consistent to stop him.

I don’t agree with him. I think he’s a f’king moron. I think he’s reprehensible. But I think his delusion is consistent with his awful world view.

I have 2 very progressive co-workers. One is super rational and we can find middle ground on tons of things easily.

The other one absolutely thinks Trump is Hitler and you cannot find anything to agree with him on. He lives in Denver and said “I totally get why you guys have wanted to close the border. But Trump is evil for the way he wanted to do it.”

Destiny started in the former camp and has needed in the latter as of late.
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:23 pm to
Weak people love to be told how to think and what to do. My guess is those that find Trump repulsive have some sort of internal guilt that they hate about themselves.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11235 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:44 pm to
Fair and I get the sentiment but I used him because he's the most obvious example of a terrible person. I could have said Charles mansion, or Ted Bundy. The point is lots of horrible people are consistent in their beliefs. That doesn't mean he has some moral high ground.

I'm not saying he's a dictator or serial killer, but that characteristic is often found in the most terrible people.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10459 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:47 pm to
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I actually agree with the sentiment. At first when I heard him on Tim Pool I thought he was a well intentioned idiot.

After I heard more of him I just thought he was delusional.

If you think a dude is as evil as Hitler, wishing him (or his followers) death, it’s morally consistent to stop him.

I don’t agree with him. I think he’s a f’king moron. I think he’s reprehensible. But I think his delusion is consistent with his awful world view.

I have 2 very progressive co-workers. One is super rational and we can find middle ground on tons of things easily.

The other one absolutely thinks Trump is Hitler and you cannot find anything to agree with him on. He lives in Denver and said “I totally get why you guys have wanted to close the border. But Trump is evil for the way he wanted to do it.”

Destiny started in the former camp and has needed in the latter as of late.


What I'm saying is that it's not reasonable for anyone to actually equate Trump with Hitler.

It's arguing from very bad faith.

The "If someone really thinks that Trump is Hitler" isn't valid. Because no one should reasonably be able to claim that.

Especially some guy who is informed enough to make a living doing political/social commentary.

This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by CrotchetyCowboy
Ward, AR
Member since Jul 2022
779 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:49 pm to
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Steven Bonnell aka Destiny....he is a Youtube debate bro...been around a while but recently has been garnering more attention as he has been debating more higher profile folks.


Just curious, did he win any of those debates?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9031 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:50 pm to
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What was the point of the post, if not to partially defend the guy's actions


Defending his thought process is more like it.

Compared to those that have also called Trump Hitller and an existential threat to this country yet say we should feel sympathy for him and his supporters.. Why would someone that truly believes that have any sympathy? Do all these folks that beleive Trump is a threat to democracy really think like Destiny and are feigning sympathy or do they really not think Trump is a threat.....either way they are lying. Destiny is not
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19409 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:53 pm to
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When your entire argument is built on literal lies, you are not attached to reality and can do whatever you want within that bubble.

Is that what the psychiatrist told you? You should listen.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10459 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:01 pm to
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Compared to those that have also called Trump Hitller and an existential threat to this country yet say we should feel sympathy for him and his supporters.. Why would someone that truly believes that have any sympathy? Do all these folks that beleive Trump is a threat to democracy really think like Destiny and are feigning sympathy or do they really not think Trump is a threat.....either way they are lying. Destiny is not


We'll have to agree to disagree.

Those people you just named are lying in that way IMO because it serves them better politically to appear to contradict themselves.

It serves Destiny's personal Soy-Boy butt hurt Gen-Z feelings to appear to be consistent. (And he's finding out why the other group was too smart to go with his narrative).

But like I said above, I do not believe that someone who does what he does for a living can possibly believe what you claim he believes.

So my conclusion is that they are all lying. Just with different goals and therefore different narratives. I don't believe ANY of them truly believe that Trump is Hitler.

Just because they say it doesn't mean it's true. It seems like an obvious political narrative to me, not something that they actually think is true.

I think the truth is that I don't think someone like Destiny believes you have to be Hitler to deserve to be assassinated. I think for someone like him, returning abortion to the states is more than enough. But it sounds better to act like he thinks Trump is Hitler.
This post was edited on 7/17/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9031 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:06 pm to
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curious, did he win any of those debates?


The Shapiro and Petersen debates I thought were tenjoyable discussions. Shapiro I thought scored more points in their debate.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9031 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

my conclusion is that they are all lying.


Yea that is possible.
Posted by CrotchetyCowboy
Ward, AR
Member since Jul 2022
779 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

The Shapiro and Petersen debates I thought were tenjoyable discussions. Shapiro I thought scored more points in their debate.


Thanks for the info, I will try to find them on YouTube
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125333 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:46 pm to
Least surprising character reveal ever.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125333 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 6:49 pm to
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He was consistent and his take is logical


I’ll bet it wasn’t.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125333 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:59 pm to
I miss the person I was before I read that.

Guy is a depraved psycho.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2756 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 8:17 pm to


Jesus that’s bad
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:18 pm to
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I miss the person I was before I read that.

Guy is a depraved psycho

And to think that he isn't the only one out there in some kind of position of influence. There's a reason why there's such a an anti-strong White male push at the highest levels of govt and industry, be wise there are a bunch of cucks like this guy leading these institutions.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53709 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Steven Bonnell aka Destiny....he is a Youtube debate bro...been around a while but recently has been garnering more attention as he has been debating more higher profile folks.


Just curious, did he win any of those debates?


I've watched a couple of discussions with Destiny and some conservativea such as Michael Knowles and it was a disaster for Destiny.....it was his destiny.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
49919 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:28 pm to
He’s been a weirdo this whole time
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