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re: Harvard loses ability to enroll foreign students

Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:19 pm to
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but surely not the entirety of prospective students that have worked toward and made plans to attend are the activist type.. are they?


Maybe thats yhe point of this.... universities need to vett foreign students better and be more cooperative with the federal government since they depend on them for the visas. Just sayin
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18265 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Small Government strikes again!

Well the administration gave them the opportunity to turn over requested information. Harvard refused. At this point the government has to lean in harder. Small government works until it doesn't


Exactly
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19385 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:23 pm to
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This will be struck down quickly


Does that mean the courts have the responsibility of administering all types of Visas for entry into this country? So the State Department is defunct now?
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19385 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:27 pm to
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This will be injunction'd and the admin is going probably not going to have this stand in the federal courts tbh. It is a browbeating tactic. On one hand Trump is making them waste money in court cases, on the other hand we're wasting the limited resources of the DoJ to defend the administration's position. Pyrrhic victory stuff...

So then it is okay for universities to allow cultivation of anti-semitism and hate speech? Universities increasingly don't act in the best interest of our National Interest.

Three days until they can judge shop for a Massachusetts judge to execute an injunction.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23259 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:34 pm to
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4cubbies


Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77997 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:36 pm to
4Chinnies mucking things up
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
1571 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:38 pm to
Just pause all foreign students for a year to establish guidelines on who can come here. All Chinese need kicked out for good
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66649 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:45 pm to
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The federal government has to be the sledge hammer

Nah.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
1815 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Well one of their soldiers just murdered two people from the brainwashing they received at institutions like Harvard.

except that guy didn't go to harvard so this is dumb
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
1492 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:49 pm to
Any institution that “educates” as many foreigners as Harvard does shouldn’t be getting tax-payer grants or special tax considerations. Period. Cap it at 10% foreign enrollment. Anything over that and you forfeit your special status.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13199 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:54 pm to
Very concerned with the right to life which you obviously aren’t.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27843 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Yeah... but is this to punish Harvard


Yes.

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punish ALL international students that intend to attend there?


Harvard is the only university in America they can attend? This doesn't "punish" any prospective students. There are literally hundreds of colleges and universities in America they can choose from.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25461 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Small Government strikes again!


By enforcing its borders?

And smaller and it wouldn't be a government you dumbass.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27843 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:05 pm to
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This will be struck down quickly


Maybe, but the Supremes will eventually uphold it.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26137 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:06 pm to
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GTFO with this stupid shite. Stop pretending it's some new development that federal money (to universities or anything at all) comes with the strings attached of things like adhering to Civil Rights laws/regs.

What civil rights law strips Harvard of its ability to select its own students for admission? I'll wait for your answer.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
986 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:09 pm to
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The federal government has to be the sledge hammer

Nah.




Go back to your safe space. Do you approve of Harvard allowing non-student scum onto their campus to harass innocent Jewish students?
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27843 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:11 pm to
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What civil rights law strips Harvard of its ability to select its own students for admission? I'll wait for your answer.


What law guarantees a visa to any foreign student that wants to go to Harvard?

What law guarantees that Harvard can continue to get federal dollars if they do nothing to prevent antisemitic harassment of its students?
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
2980 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:11 pm to
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Small Government strikes again!

Shut up whore.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
8505 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Wow, that's going to hurt. Like unimaginably so.


Good. I hope it hurts a lot. The men that founded Harvard would hate what it has become.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8958 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 3:12 pm to
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So then it is okay for universities to allow cultivation of anti-semitism and hate speech? Universities increasingly don't act in the best interest of our National Interest.

Three days until they can judge shop for a Massachusetts judge to execute an injunction.


I feel like these allegations are way overblown and disingenuously framed to be quite honest. Not pinning that on this administration. The last admin was just as bad on this front to be quite honest. It is just a useful way to silence dissent against a close ally that neither party has any true daylight between them and the ally. It is being used as a cudgel in this case because Harvard won't play ball on the DEI proclamations from the executive branch.

Furthermore, a private university doesn't have to act in the best interest of the nation. They shouldn't expect government funding if they don't but denying access to international students is capricious.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 3:16 pm
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