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re: Half of London’s violent crime committed by the 12% black population

Posted on 4/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28017 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
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Dude, come on. LOL. Just admit it to yourself. Look up what racism is and then look at the subject of this thread and look at the responses. It's racist AF
All I did was ask a question about some statistics I came across today. I'm interested in the subject of race, poverty, crime, etc.

I've heard a million times that the reason the crime rate, and specifically the violent crime rate among the black population is higher than other races is due to a legacy of slavery.

When I saw these numbers today coming from the United Kingdom... a nation which does not have the history of slavery of the United States, and seeing how closely the numbers mirror crime among the black population in the United States, it was interesting to me.

It's something that I certainly think deserves analysis.

I believed the slavery argument long ago, but now I have come to believe it has more to do with government policies than anything. For example, you can see a clear and distinct line in out-of-wedlock births in all races starting in the 60's, but the numbers rose in the black community far more than any other group. From there brought single motherhood, broken homes, crime, gangs, etc. That's my own belief, and it has nothing to do with racism or thinking one race is superior or inferior. It has to do with government policy.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 2:52 pm to
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OP brought up a statistic about London. I don’t know if his statistic is true. OP then asked why the statistic mirrors similar numbers from US cities. And all you do is scream about racism. It’s tiresome and boring and ignores the statistics.


I used numbers of my own. Nice Omission though
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Is any part of the African American populations problems their own fault, or is it all someone else's fault?


It falls on everyone. It definitely falls on the people that live in those circumstances. I'm not the one being unfair trying to attributed solely to them. Those communities are part of a much larger community and if any part of our community is failing then it's the entire community's fault.

You see this as a silly little game because I answered a very one-sided post with the other side. So now you assume that I'm as far to the other side as the op was towards his side. That's what silly.

I'm trying to bring people back to the middle by showing them the other side. I do it on this board every single day. Actually agree with a lot of the subject matter around here but I try to help sharpen my own and others arguments.

The American black communities in many ways of failed themselves. And many ways these are circumstances put up on them and the unfair Prejudice they faced their entire lives.

That prejudice exists even now. However I do think it is on leaders of black communities to start helping the problem instead of blaming. By that same token it isn't helpful of white people to blame black people for things that happen in society either.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:00 pm to
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It falls on everyone

Really? How is it Zach's fault?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39654 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Dude, come on. LOL. Just admit it to yourself. Look up what racism is and then look at the subject of this thread and look at the responses. It's racist AF


And you ain't. Or Black folk in general. Pot meet kettle.

This whole thing is victimhood re who gets what and why. Socialist Ideology. The faux-morality of the Race Card is employed to advance Marxist Philosophy and get somebody else's stuff...the easy way.

Would be interesting to see where MLK would come down today. Or Jesus for that matter.

Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Or Jesus for that matter.


I would think Jesus would be more concerned with what is happening in the area where he lived and knew. I find it hard to believe he would be more concerned with America a place he had no clue about or even existed.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39654 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 4:08 pm to
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I would think Jesus would be more concerned with what is happening in the area where he lived and knew. I find it hard to believe he would be more concerned with America a place he had no clue about or even existed.


Just a hypothetical offering, JM; in regard to how Jesus might offer commentary (assuming He were here today) on this Thread. I'm sure He'd make it Personal, and reiterate His suggestion that each of us follow His former suggestions...and change our own persona to a degree that would more likely affect the World in a positive way than our contentious arguments.

I think that this Worldly Paradigm (Parallel Universe?) is a particular rung on the ladder, with it's particular problems. Problems that are impossible to solve, given our Visionary limitations. Of course, that could change, if particular scenarios were to fall into place. Chances being kinda like the creation of Life (as we know it) in our Universe...sure as hell a long shot...but it HAPPENED. On to the next 'rung'.



Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1846 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:07 pm to
I got banned off r/worldnews for pointing this out a while back
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157760 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 5:09 pm to
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It falls on everyone


????
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2176 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:02 pm to
I’m not doubting the stats. I’m talking about the fascination and glee some of on this site have with pointing out the failures of some black people. The same focus is not placed on the failures of other communities.

The issue raised certainly relevant. I’m just pointing out what is missing from the narrative on this forum.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19567 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:34 pm to
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I’m just pointing out what is missing from the narrative on this forum.


What you're missing is the fact that most communities are willing to deal with their problems internally when faced with them. Black communities will blame everything else but themselves and never own the fact that, historically, the only people that treat black people worse than whites are other black people.
Posted by hrryhll
England
Member since Apr 2018
708 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:34 pm to
London is a cesspool and has been for a few years now. Everybody knows that the problems this year are committed by black gang members but the leaders in this country are so PC they are afraid to confront it.

Police have been told not to stop and search blackbpeople they suspect are carrying acid/knives/etc in case it comes across as racist.

And it goes beyond London. Muslim grooming gangs targeting and raping young girls in northern england and the police turned a blind eye because it would look racist.

I despair at what this country is becoming. The most popular boy’s name in Britain is Mohamed, that says it all.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 7:51 pm to
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I’m not doubting the stats. I’m talking about the fascination and glee some of on this site have with pointing out the failures of some black people. The same focus is not placed on the failures of other communities.

The issue raised certainly relevant. I’m just pointing out what is missing from the narrative on this forum.




It isn't fascination.

They commit half the fricking crimes when they are only 12% of the population in two completely different situations.

That is nothing more than a statement of fact.

The fascination is nonwhite people desperate to make excuses for it
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20114 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 9:44 pm to
How much of it is drug related? Repeat offenders?

Blacks are also outpacing whites in education, esp. on the lower socioeconomic level.
Posted by TaTa Toothy
Everything in its right place
Member since Sep 2017
944 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:45 pm to
We wuz Royalz and shite, chap
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84702 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 10:57 pm to
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I’m not doubting the stats. I’m talking about the fascination and glee some of on this site have with pointing out the failures of some black people. The same focus is not placed on the failures of other communities.


Let me know when a bunch of Asians block interstates over a worthless thug.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:36 pm to
Overachievers.
Posted by Sweet daddy
Member since Jan 2016
1037 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 12:10 am to
That is so disgusting more trigger happy typical coward white folks scared of their own shawdow. But that is how your family raised you to fear blacks we are all killers and monsters.
I once met a girl from Hong Kong she has never had an association with an African American but she thinks they are all murders and rapists fake news. But that is what white society honors .
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 1:55 am to
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That is so disgusting more trigger happy typical coward white folks scared of their own shawdow. But that is how your family raised you to fear blacks we are all killers and monsters. I once met a girl from Hong Kong she has never had an association with an African American but she thinks they are all murders and rapists fake news. But that is what white society honors .







Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5004 posts
Posted on 4/8/18 at 3:37 am to
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The American black communities in many ways of failed themselves.


At least you can admit this. However, I don't think this thread is racist. It points out a very glaring and real issue. Sure, other communities have their problems, but if you can name one that comes remotely close to 12% of a population committing over half the crimes (and more often than not, against themselves), I'm sure many would be happy to discuss that problem.

Personally, I think if racism were a real issue, the problem outlined would be much worse than it is. No minorities would ever be successful if racism were as prominent as you suggest that it is.
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