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re: Half of London’s violent crime committed by the 12% black population

Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:19 am to
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Well, when your argument is founded on slavery being at the bottom of today’s problem in the black community, the detail of slavery ending well over a century before anyone in the black community alive today was born is in fact a rather important detail.


It really isn't considering that all of these people still live in the poverty post-slavery. The fact that you're ignoring that means that you're trying to make it fit in your racist narrative
Posted by JackieTreehorn
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:19 am to
Welcome to our world ole chaps.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:22 am to
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It really isn't considering that all of these people still live in the poverty post-slavery. The fact that you're ignoring that means that you're trying to make it fit in your racist narrative


I’ll refer you to NIH’s post....

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Again, you asked for data and you got it. The data backed up exactly what I said. There are plenty of poor white and Hispanic areas in the country, plenty of them with crime, yet leaders in violent crime are almost exclusively black majority cities. Keep that head in the sand


You’d have a point if the poor white and Hispanic communities had similar crime rates as poor black communities.

But they don’t.

Why is that?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:25 am to
Poor white and Hispanic areas have plenty of property and non-violent crime, black cities are unmatched in violence. Anyone who denies that or files it away as just because "poor" is hopelessly dishonest
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:28 am to
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Again, you asked for data and you got it.


No I didn't, because...

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There are plenty of poor white and Hispanic areas in the country, plenty of them with crime


that's the data that is relevant to your hypothesis. We're doing a between-groups comparison and you're only looking at a piece of the whole.

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Keep that head in the sand


Yeah, I'm the one with my head in the sand. We'll be talking about fast twitch muscle fibers in no time.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:30 am to
You're playing semantics because the statistics are too damning to do otherwise.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:31 am to
No, I'm just less willing to make sweeping generalizations based on incomplete data than you (apparently) are.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:31 am to
Seems like you and Darth Vader have a good hold on things, though.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:33 am to
Violent crimes per capita are pretty good indicators of violent crime in cities

Keep that head in the sand, though

Violent crime has nothing to do with race or culture
Posted by Marlbud
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:33 am to
This is loaded which truth.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:36 am to
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With such prejudice just as present in London as in the US, coupled with poverty = lots of crime. Surprising I know.


The majority of violent crime whether in the U.S. or U.K. is "black on black", how does the existence of prejudice drive black people to rape and kill each other? There are significant communities of white people living in poverty within the U.S. and many other countries that are not killing each other so the poverty aspect doesn't hold water.
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:45 am to
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It really isn't considering that all of these people still live in the poverty post-slavery.


In the U.S. anyone with normal intelligence that spends their life living in poverty does so based solely on the decisions they have made.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:47 am to
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It really isn't considering that all of these people still live in the poverty post-slavery

You would think those conditions would spur parents to magnify the importance of education, sobriety and the shunning of criminal behavior to their offspring.

There is no other way for an individual or a collective to rise out of poverty. And yet, many still do not promote doing what has to be done to pull themselves up.

Very odd.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:49 am to
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Violent crimes per capita are pretty good indicators of violent crime in cities

Keep that head in the sand, though


I'll try to explain it one more time. You posting "lookie here, 22 out of the top 25 most violent crime per-capita areas are majority black" is not the same thing as showing how non-majority black areas with equivalent poverty/SES/etc. have less violent crime.

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Violent crime has nothing to do with race or culture



It's hilarious that you keep revealing your agenda by putting words in my mouth.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:54 am to
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Is that really the most important part of what I posted?


How could it be the most important part of your post when it was not in your post?
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 11:59 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:01 pm to
El Paso

San Diego

San Antonio murder rate drops 16%

I don't even have to get into how safe white communities are

This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:01 pm to
TY for posting. I had always assumed black people in the UK had different upbringings and were in general less likely to have the desire or need to commit as much crime.

It's easy to equate the crime rate here with bad parenting, low income, drug use, etc. Not sure what the excuse there would be.

I wonder how big of an influence global pop culture and the romanticism rap artists put on certain lifestyles takes on the race as a whole world wide.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/7/18 at 12:04 pm to
The San Antonio drop was from a massive spike in 2016. The San Diego link also says absolutely nothing about demographics or population statistics. Didn’t click the other link, but I’ve said my piece.
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