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re: Hakeem Jeffries vows ‘serious response’ after two House Democrats vote with Republicans

Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:39 am to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13946 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Wish we had a leader on the right who whipped people in line to stay together.


shite, I thought I voted for people to do what I want done not what some, Ken doll or little Johnson wants them to do.

That's why I voted for Paxton.

Bush clan hates him and, I hate them back.

Term fricking limits please.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
41203 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:40 am to
quote:

You WILL conform and march in lockstep or we WILL punish you!

Sounds about right, so much for free thought and “democracy”


Actually, both parties do this. Part of the "evil" and "necessity" of parties.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13979 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:42 am to
How often to conservatives in the house cross over on democratic led political stunt bills?

My guess is nearly as often as the opposite.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32443 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:45 am to
quote:

both parties do this
both parties work to “whip” their caucuses into voting for some bill or another, but I’m not seeing republicans making threats about retribution like this…

you can make the argument that efforts to primary someone is the same thing… it is similar, but much less draconian
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
1976 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:52 am to
Holy shite at this thread.



Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6756 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Wish we had a senator on the right who whipped John Thune in line to pass the SAVE Act.
Posted by Friscodog
Ruston, LA. (Formerly Frisco TX)
Member since Jul 2009
5220 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 10:15 am to
Jefferies was backtracking when pushed on his earlier comments abou the DSA saying that the democratic part is not socialists. So when two fellow democrats vote and say that they do not support socialism, he gets pissed off? Sounds like he embraces the DSA platform.

Can't have it both ways Hakeem..
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
171421 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 10:26 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10659 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 10:40 am to
quote:

You WILL conform and march in lockstep or we WILL punish you!
Sounds about right, so much for free thought and “democracy”


Trump tolerates dissent and "free thought" among Republicans?


Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32443 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:06 am to
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Trump tolerates dissent and "free thought" among Republicans?



perhaps you could link a story about what the punishment will be for the 5 republicans that defected

TIA
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18565 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:08 am to
Sounds to
Me like he wanting to be king Jeffries
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10659 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:28 am to
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perhaps you could link a story about what the punishment will be for the 5 republicans that defected 


Apparently you were extolling the virtue of free thought within parties. I think that IS a virture. It's healthy for democracy.

Clearly, our President doesn't share that view. Do you disagree?

Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24404 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:29 am to

Free will is the enemy within the party of tolerance.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32443 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Apparently you were extolling the virtue of free thought within parties. I think that IS a virture. It's healthy for democracy.

Clearly, our President doesn't share that view. Do you disagree?


yes - I disagree

there is a big difference between public backlash over a vote and the party stepping in to decide "punishment"
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10659 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:36 am to
quote:

yes - I disagree

there is a big difference between public backlash over a vote and the party stepping in to decide "punishment"


Understood. Just to be clear, you think that "free thinking" Republicans are a good thing?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32443 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:42 am to
quote:

you think that "free thinking" Republicans are a good thing?


I think "groupthink" is a bad thing

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
51008 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:48 am to
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You WILL conform and march in lockstep or we WILL punish you!


Thomas Massie and John Cornyn know what that's like
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10659 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:48 am to
quote:

think "groupthink" is a bad thing


Got it. Agreed.

I agree that Democrats and leftists in general are FAR less tolerant of thought diversity. The attack on the Michigan legislator who thanked Trump was proof (as is your post).

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Yes — you're thinking of Karen Whitsett, a Democratic Michigan state representative from Detroit.
In April 2020, Whitsett contracted COVID-19 and said hydroxychloroquine had helped save her life. She credited President Donald Trump for promoting the drug and publicly thanked Trump and Vice President Mike Pence during a White House meeting. ?
CBS News +1
The 13th Congressional District Democratic Party Organization subsequently censured/reprimanded her. The dispute wasn't simply that she said "thank you"; party activists objected to her praising Trump's COVID response and criticizing Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. ?
FOX 2 Detroit +1
Whitsett famously responded:
“I didn’t know that saying thank you had a political line.”
Trump then suggested that she join the Republican Party. ?
foxnews.com
So the name you're looking for is Karen Whitsett.





Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6906 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:54 am to
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He’s annoying but his point will get across. Wish we had a leader on the right who whipped people in line to stay together.


It’s not that simple anymore with the rise of the DSA. Pay particular interest in how these representatives are disciplined. The DSA is going to start bucking the mainstream Democratic Party sooner rather than later. Will those defectors be punished or praised. Jeffries has to be scared of what’s coming.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27710 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 11:55 am to
Toby be mad.
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