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Tiguar
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
it's also worth mentioning there were originally 3,300 "known" deaths and the CDC revised that number up to 12k to account for unknown cases.

We have no idea what the "revised" number will end up being for COVID19, we are already 33% of the "known" H1N1 deaths
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Yak
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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But you can't, because as we are seeing, the # of deaths are not directly correlated to the # of infected, which is why i said we won't know the final numbers until this is all over. Again, there are the untold # of people who had symptoms but didn't get tested and the asymptomatic.


Which is why its not comparable


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PhiTiger1764
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
So you are quoting total US infections and total worldwide deaths.


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TH03
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CDC estimated


WHO confirmed only 18k. I'm sure that isn't correct either, but why is one number gospel?


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BugAC
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It's almost incomprehensible that an adult could be this ignorant



I don't think someone who doesn't have a basic grasp of math and fractions needs to comment about someone being ignorant.


Mikey P
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
because Orange Man Bad


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Powerman
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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I don't think someone who doesn't have a basic grasp of math and fractions needs to comment about someone being ignorant.



Says the guy that opened the thread claiming 250K Americans died of H1N1. It was 12,469

Then you illogically started jumping into global numbers. We need to be comparing apples to apples.

At the rate we're going it's not unlikely that we'll surpass the United States H1N1 deaths by the end of summer. And we're comparing that to a 20 month time frame. And that's even with the drastic measures we're taking.

So to answer your question, it's really not comparable.


Vacherie Saint
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
Libs will want to get into some pointless semantics arguments, or want to compare minor differences in the Viruses to give Obama a pass, but its absolutely fair to compare these two responses.

The truth is; Obama didn't really do anything until there were over 500 deaths. The same people who celebrated his response in 2009 are absolutely destroying Trump now. Many of those people are in the media.


ljhog
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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Why is the complete economic shutdown of our country warranted now,

It's not.


GeauxFightingTigers1
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Says the guy that opened the thread claiming 250K Americans died of H1N1. It was 12,469


That might be in the range of global deaths. Of course, that barely made headlines.

LINK

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Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year th
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Lsut81
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?


Bc H1N1 doesn’t sell ads and invoke fear right now.

Can’t be realistic and optimistic these days.


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Vacherie Saint
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So to answer your question, it's really not comparable.


two flu pandemics. lots of dying people. two presidents. two responses.

Its comparable. But I totally understand why Obama fan boys don't want to go there.


Powerman
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It's not.

Unfortunately it is because we were ill prepared for this type of pandemic. Even with the measures we're taking the most affected areas are getting pushed to the limit and we're not even at peak yet.


Yak
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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Libs will want to get into some pointless semantics arguments, or want to compare minor differences in the Viruses to give Obama a pass, but its absolutely fair to compare these two responses.

The truth is; Obama didn't really do anything until there were over 500 deaths. The same people who celebrated his response in 2009 are absolutely destroying Trump now. Many of those people are in the media.
Wait, what are we comparing? The numbers or the political response?


OceanMan
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
The primary talking point around c19 is overwhelming healthcare facilities. It is simply more contagious than the others you mention.

However, a good way to overload the healthcare system is to scare people into thinking they have it is a death sentence. I find it very interesting that in LA (not sure about other states), that about 1 in 4 people that think they have it, and apparently showing enough symptoms to get tested, actually have it. These people, instead of staying home like they are supposed to, are likely going to hospitals, who have by far the highest concentration of positive cases, to get tested. I know not all tests are being done at hospitals, my point is that if we are a little more realistic about the effects and danger of this virus, rather than just the risk of contracting it, we wouldn’t be in the midst of this frenzy we are currently in.


Vacherie Saint
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
well. the responses drive the numbers do they not?



McLemore
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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12,000 deaths in U.S.


The high end of the est is 18k. And I don't know what the testing situation was like then.


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Yak
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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well. the responses drive the numbers do they not?
I'm comparing the numbers, you're comparing the political response. Which is fine, but just note that distinction when attempting to call me an Obama fanboy.


EZE Tiger Fan
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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OceanMan


This guy gets it.

And what population uses the ER as their primary care giver?


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BugAC
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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Powerman


Updated the OP to compare global estimates and US for H1N1 and Chinese Flu.

H1N1 (Source CDC)
Worldwide: 700 million to 1.4 billion infected, 171,000-575,000 deaths
US: 60.8 million cases, 12,469 deaths

Coronavirus (reported)
Worldwide: 490,144 infected, 22,154 deaths
US: 68,211 infected, 1,027 deaths


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