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bfniii
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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As it stands now it is probably necessary to prevent things from spiraling out of control.
fear. panic. hysteria. scare tactics.

not fact.


Powerman
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Member since Jan 2004
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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as long as resources are available to do so. there is a point at which there won't be any resources and there is a point of no return

Uh yeah. That's why everything is shut down right now...


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Powerman
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Member since Jan 2004
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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fear. panic. hysteria. scare tactics.

not fact.

So do you suggest that Louisiana just go back to life as normal? To what extent?


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SammyTiger
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New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
I actually meant raw number of deaths.

I agree mortality rate is probably lower than currently reported, but as far as total deaths it is keeping pace after a month and we are doing literally everything we can to slow it down.


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thejudge
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Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
I'd like to know if we were better prepared with the swine flu virus.

Would replenishing our stock after it like they didn't do have eased this?

Buying the ventilators that were suggested that NYC didn't do have mitigated this?

Is this why the swine flu was not as hyped up (minus social media)


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TH03
Iowa State Fan
Austin
Member since Dec 2008
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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oh but the "models" are ok to believe, right? so let's shut the country down based on the models.

i'm sorry you can't see the inconsistency in your position


"My position" was just created by you for the purposes of attacking that straw man argument.


mmcgrath
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New Jersey
Member since Feb 2010
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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January 2009 H1N1 was declared a pandemic. April the first US case was detercted. October 24, 2009 (6 months later), after 1,000 died, did Obama declare it a Public Health Emergency.

In comparison, December 31, 2019 China first reported Coronavirus to the world. January 31st Trump declared it a public health emergency. Quarantines were set in place, and you called Trump racist.

Care to revisit your last comment?
It was declared a pandemic by WHO and the CDC in JUNE 2009. Maybe you would like to revisit yours.


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BobBoucher
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Member since Jan 2008
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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the comparison isn't the epidemiology.


It absolutely is. Unless you want to say apples and oranges are the same because they are fruit and you eat them both.

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the comparison is the reaction to outbreaks.


The reaction is due to what happens when there’s a lack of reaction. 4 countries had hospitals overrun.

You saw New York politicians encouraging people to go out early on. Now they have half the cases in the US and their hospitals are struggling to keep up.

They reacted too late.

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yes people are going to die. people die every day from all sorts of risks.


you’d make a lousy politician.
This post was edited on 3/26 at 1:23 pm


RD Dawg
Georgia Fan
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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Viral outbreaks are exponential in nature

Repeat the above sentence 500 fricking times in your head if you have to until you get it


The 4000 number was actually estimated on November 12th.So we're talking a little over a month to come up 3000 deaths.

So if we're looking at and "exponential rates" you're looking at 12,000 deaths+ through December.

So that means a grand total of 15000 in those 2 months (minimum) which would top the official death tally by about 2,500.

Doesn't quite add up.


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bfniii
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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"My position" was just created by you for the purposes of attacking that straw man argument
my comment wasn't necessarily aimed specifically at your comment


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bfniii
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Member since Nov 2005
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re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
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It absolutely is
it is not and i have explained multiple times how that's not the case. at a certain political level, an outbreak is an outbreak. you do the same thing for both - stem the tide. THAT'S what people are trying to get across but is obviously escaping you

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4 countries had hospitals overrun
this has been shown to be not analogous to those who are keeping up. see the latest cdc comments on how badly the models were off

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Now they have half the cases in the US and their hospitals are struggling to keep up.
not exactly. as of yesterday, there were still cases of the most critical equipment sitting unused in a warehouse and the gov admitting they weren't really that urgent right after he had gone out and made a public cry of hysteria that he needed quadruple the number that were sitting in his own warehouse.

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They reacted too late
and for every nyc you cite, i'll cite every other city that isn't a hotspot. this virus is hitting a handful of cities. the rest of the country is hardly noticing any serious cases/deaths. you are really missing the context of this situation

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you’d make a lousy politician.
again, looking around, i think most people agree with what i have been saying


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