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Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:08 am to You_R_Here
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When you attend high school graduations this season, know that a solid 40% of those diplomas are empty.
Don’t forget that 80% of all enrolling freshmen MUST graduate in 4 years (Thanks Jindal).
That means the kid that failed some classes, but graduated in 5 years (roughly 10%) are now “somehow” walking in four years. The La. legislators don’t give two fricks about actual accountability, they simply want to look as though they are “being tough” on educators.
The “system” is fraught with issues, and most of them are external. Public schools, outside of honors, gifted, college credit, tech, and STEM are failing. BTW, the list that I just rolled off accounts for roughly 1/4 of the students. That means 3/4 are up against it. It is a damned shame.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:08 am to Eli Goldfinger
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"When the little things don’t matter, nothing matters,” Allen said. Students “see people being tardy all the time and breaking dress code and cussing out teachers and doing these things and think, ‘So why should I take anything seriously?’”
Man...
It's almost as if those who are controlling our public education system are deliberately sowing the seeds of nihilism within our nation's youth...
Aaaaalmost.....
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:20 am to Eli Goldfinger
My high school had 2 Assistant Principals to handle disciplinary issues when I was in school. It now has 6. The number of students didn't change, but other things did.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:24 am to TigerAxeOK
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It's almost as if those who are controlling our public education system are deliberately sowing the seeds of nihilism within our nation's youth...
I used to thing the failure of the public education system might be planned.
After walking through Paulo Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed,” a foundational text for our current education system, I’m utterly convinced.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:33 am to the808bass
I wonder if this teacher votes for gap tooth. If so, I have zero sympathy for him, as he likely supports the ideologies that blame everything on "systemic racism".
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:03 am to Eli Goldfinger
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In FY 2022, the Department of Education (ED) had $113.58 Billion in available budgetary resources
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President Joe Biden signed this week earmarks $76.4 billion in discretionary appropriations for the U.S. Department of Education
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:13 am to Eli Goldfinger
If only they were our children where we could help with the manners and discipline.
However, we all know they are the communities children.
However, we all know they are the communities children.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:15 am to LuckyTiger
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My brother in law says standards have been dumbed down to the lowest bar possible.
My niece is a straight-A student at our local public middle school. She just miserably failed an entrance exam for a private school.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:18 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:20 am to Eli Goldfinger
I'll work 20 hours a day if I have to, my kids won't be going to public school, amd our school district is actually one of the better ones in the state historically.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:22 am to Eli Goldfinger
Teaching should be a well paid, well respected position. It's extremely important to the future of society.
Having said that, I have no idea why anyone would want to be a teacher in our country. Low paying trash job where you get shite on by kids and awful parents all day.
Having said that, I have no idea why anyone would want to be a teacher in our country. Low paying trash job where you get shite on by kids and awful parents all day.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:26 am to LSUSkip
That’s what I’m facing. I’m about to be paying 2000/month for changing mine over to private. I have no doubt that’s gonna translate into over 3000/month total expenses - at least. Told my wife if I have to go work a graveyard shift at a convenience store I will.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:26 am to Eli Goldfinger
Back in the 70's-80's, if we got out of line, depending on what we did, We'd get a paddle with holes in it.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:26 am to Ignignokt
There are students at my school that haven't gotten above an F in any core subject in the last three years that we keep passing because "studies" show that if they fell they are less likely to stay in school. Guess what? If they can't read, write, or even add, they aren't going to stay in school. We are training these children on the welfare system: do nothing and be rewarded!
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:27 am to Chazreinhold
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Back in the 70's-80's, if we got out of line, depending on what we did, We'd get a paddle with holes in it.
Hell, we’d get school paddlings as an interrogation tool. I got paddled a couple of times simply for not snitching.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:29 am to the808bass
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We slap disability labels on kids who are just POS.
From the party of science.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:46 am to Eli Goldfinger
20+ year high school teacher here. My last principal summed up the problem by saying
“If I could get rid of just ten students out of our 2,600 I could eliminate 90% of our serious discipline problems.”
Three things prevent schools from sending these ten students to an alternative school.
1. Schools have to report discipline by race to the Federal Government and if the numbers are not equitable then they can step in.
2. Special education laws which say if a behavior is a manifestation of a disability then we can’t suspend or remove the students for more than ten days. If a student’s disability is behavior disordered or emotionally or socially disturbed then all behavior is manifested by the disability.
3. In higher socioeconomic schools the parents get lawyers and advocates who run all over the school administrators and threaten lawsuits if a child is removed or even disciplined for their behavior.
The only way for parents to protect their children is to get them in gifted, advanced and later AP classes. Because general education classes have become a zoo.
Also, if you have boys get them into some form of contact sports from a young age such as wrestling or football and when they turn 12 take them to the gym to workout. The bad kids lack discipline but they aren’t stupid and won’t target a kid that isn’t afraid of contact.
“If I could get rid of just ten students out of our 2,600 I could eliminate 90% of our serious discipline problems.”
Three things prevent schools from sending these ten students to an alternative school.
1. Schools have to report discipline by race to the Federal Government and if the numbers are not equitable then they can step in.
2. Special education laws which say if a behavior is a manifestation of a disability then we can’t suspend or remove the students for more than ten days. If a student’s disability is behavior disordered or emotionally or socially disturbed then all behavior is manifested by the disability.
3. In higher socioeconomic schools the parents get lawyers and advocates who run all over the school administrators and threaten lawsuits if a child is removed or even disciplined for their behavior.
The only way for parents to protect their children is to get them in gifted, advanced and later AP classes. Because general education classes have become a zoo.
Also, if you have boys get them into some form of contact sports from a young age such as wrestling or football and when they turn 12 take them to the gym to workout. The bad kids lack discipline but they aren’t stupid and won’t target a kid that isn’t afraid of contact.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:49 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:56 am to bird35
I posted most of this in the thread about the Cobb city failures, but it fits better here.
My wife is a teacher in GCPS (over 10 years), and we have already said our little one won't go to GCPS schools. He either goes private or we move.
The new superintendent that just came from Washington state is instituting shite that is thinly veiled CRT. Learning 2025 framework that says "units must be developmentally appropriate and touch on multiple forms of oppression, including race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, or disability."
The new super/school board is also looking to make the faculty represent the student body population (which is 70% black or brown), refusing to let white teachers transfer to certain schools, and even taking laptops/Chromebooks bought with money from a school's PTA fundraiser and redistributing them to other schools.
At one of my wife's previous schools (elementary school), they had a child that was just absolutely horrible. Threw chairs, cursed, even body-slammed a pregnant substitute teacher. The school was about to expel him when the dad pulled out some ADHD diagnosis from a doctor, and they couldn't touch the kid.
Sadly many school systems are doing away with gifted and advanced content classes because there aren't enough black or brown students in them. GCPS is making it a point to increase the numbers of black and brown children in those classes, and getting rid of the standardized testing (Iowa, COGAT) that have been the main gatekeepers for those classes.
My wife is a teacher in GCPS (over 10 years), and we have already said our little one won't go to GCPS schools. He either goes private or we move.
The new superintendent that just came from Washington state is instituting shite that is thinly veiled CRT. Learning 2025 framework that says "units must be developmentally appropriate and touch on multiple forms of oppression, including race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, or disability."
The new super/school board is also looking to make the faculty represent the student body population (which is 70% black or brown), refusing to let white teachers transfer to certain schools, and even taking laptops/Chromebooks bought with money from a school's PTA fundraiser and redistributing them to other schools.
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In higher socioeconomic schools the parents get lawyers and advocates who run all over the school administrators and threaten lawsuits if a child is removed or even disciplined for their behavior.
At one of my wife's previous schools (elementary school), they had a child that was just absolutely horrible. Threw chairs, cursed, even body-slammed a pregnant substitute teacher. The school was about to expel him when the dad pulled out some ADHD diagnosis from a doctor, and they couldn't touch the kid.
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The only way for parents to protect their children is to get them in gifted, advanced and later AP classes. Because general education classes have become a zoo.
Sadly many school systems are doing away with gifted and advanced content classes because there aren't enough black or brown students in them. GCPS is making it a point to increase the numbers of black and brown children in those classes, and getting rid of the standardized testing (Iowa, COGAT) that have been the main gatekeepers for those classes.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:42 pm to Tantal
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My high school had 2 Assistant Principals to handle disciplinary issues when I was in school. It now has 6.
My school had 1.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:51 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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But administrators came down on some teachers because more students were failing than usual, he said.
My mom taught HS for 30+ yrs and retired 30 yrs ago. She took the unruly kids and made them sit in the hall outside copying chapters. She did not have that many like that but she did not waste their time on them.
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