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Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:33 pm to BamaAtl
You are a disgrace
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:33 pm to beerJeep
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3% of the population is the problem.
I agree. 3% of our population owns 50% of the guns. That's a fetish.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:33 pm to Redbone
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More guns = more gun deaths. More guns = more gun murders. More guns = more gun suicides.
No doubt genius.
In this thread your compatriots are arguing that these statements are not true.
Welcome to reality!
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:34 pm to BamaAtl
I find it extremely telling how you refuse to go back to the suicide angle. Why don't you want to talk about the suicide rates in japan/south korea/france and in nordic countries? I thought more guns means more suicides?
And it's super telling how you refuse to call for common sense alcohol control in the form of common sense mental health screenings and background checks.
After all, alcohol consumption is a much more reliable indicator of criminal activity than gun ownership.
And it's super telling how you refuse to call for common sense alcohol control in the form of common sense mental health screenings and background checks.
After all, alcohol consumption is a much more reliable indicator of criminal activity than gun ownership.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:34 pm to Jbird
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Why won't you answer my question?
"Nope." isn't a question, it's an incorrect statement from you.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:34 pm to BamaAtl
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ou left out the next thing I posted. MORE GUNS = MORE GUN MURDERS
what about per capita?
does Wyoming have a larger rate of gun murder than NJ? Mass?
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Because suicides are also dead Americans, and we should try to prevent that. Why don't you want to save American lives?
i'm fine having a discussion about suicides in its own discussion
i'm not fine mixing gun deaths, ie including suicides, when discussing violent crimes with guns
and that applies double when i'm talking about urban v. rural gun crime and you cite suicide rates to attempt to disprove my statement
which is exactly how we got here
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:35 pm to BamaAtl
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In this thread your compatriots are arguing that these statements are not true. Welcome to reality!
More cars equals more car deaths.
Your incessant beating if the more guns equals more gun deaths is irrelevant and disingenuous. You are by far the most intentionally dishonest poster here, though.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:So far any of you ideas that are already in effect or have any possibility in working are pie in the sky.
BamaAtl
Even confiscation (we ain't Australia + we have learned from them can' have a noticeable effect in your life time + many more.
They will be out modded long before you and yours can screw the situation up even more.
You already shot down you own argument so I'll take my leave now.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:36 pm to BamaAtl
Backtracking and adding an asterisk when your false claims is completely obliterated.
Typical.
Care to explain why you aren't for common sense background checks and mental health screenings for alcohol purchases?
Typical.
Care to explain why you aren't for common sense background checks and mental health screenings for alcohol purchases?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes, as in what did Austin do to get better than Houston
Not really relevant to the role access to guns has in gun violence.
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since they never implemented a UBI, why would that be a logical proposal for Houston?
Because it would raise the median income, bringing some of the demographics more in line with Austin.
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but if we made every city Austin, we would have even fewer and without trampling on the rights of citizens
The best way to do this is to increase taxes and provide a better social safety net, but I'm not looking to add that argument to this thread since I'm certain you disagree. So let's move on?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:36 pm to BamaAtl
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I agree. 3% of our population owns 50% of the guns. That's a fetish.
do we have any data about those legal gun owners who own a disproportionate amount of guns and violence they commit upon others?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:37 pm to Redbone
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Already there and funded.
How about enforcing it?
Severely underfunded, and mental health status is not a universal disqualifier, Wacky, but again it's a fetish.
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What has this got to do with it?
Mass shootings are done with one or two.
Vegas would like a word.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:37 pm to BamaAtl
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agree. 3% of our population owns 50% of the guns. That's a fetish.
So 3% of law obiding citizens are a problem.
But 3% of a population that commits 40% of violent crime is perfectly fine.
Jesus fricking Christ you deserve to be castrated.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they don't have the restraints of a 2nd Amendment and banned guns, for all intents and purposes
The 2nd Amendment isn't a suicide pact. Hell, until Heller there was no explicit right to individual ownership. That's barely precedent.
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why do you keep going back to these countries as your examples
Because of their success.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:38 pm to beerJeep
90% of all gun shootings deaths are done by Liberals. This is the main problem.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:39 pm to upgrayedd
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No, it won't. There is zero evidence of that. If you want to provide objective data proving that point, feel free.
Just for the record, it's your position that waiting periods do not prevent gun deaths?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:39 pm to Redbone
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I've seen some and they are incomplete.
You aren't really qualified to opine on methodology or limitations.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:40 pm to BamaAtl
Why aren't you for common sense alcohol control? Why aren't you calling for mental health screenings and background checks on alcohol purchases?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:40 pm to BamaAtl
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Not really relevant to the role access to guns has in gun violence.
i agree. access to guns doesn't explain the difference in violent crimes via gun between the 2 cities
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Because it would raise the median income, bringing some of the demographics more in line with Austin.
but Austin did it without a UBI, so Houston can, too. therefore the UBI is a moot point
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The best way to do this is to increase taxes and provide a better social safety net,
that's a fine discussion to have. so do you agree now that this isn't an issue of gun ownership and it's an issue related to demographics? i'm very willing to have a discussion about culture and SES and how to deal with them to decrease our violent crime rates
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but I'm not looking to add that argument to this thread since I'm certain you disagree
well its a more worthwhile discussion than discussing "Access to guns". i'm more than willing to discuss it if you agree with that point
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