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re: ‘Grossly insufficient’: Judge blasts DOC-suggested fixes for Angola’s Farm Line

Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4103 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:05 pm to
Well let’s just clear out all the prisons! Because all of ‘em just made a “mistake”. Your logic is not logical
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19423 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:20 pm to
Clear em out and send them to 4chubbies place.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:21 pm to
So murderers and rapists have to work in the heat? I’m trying to care.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11342 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:31 pm to
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You put so much faith in the state that you believe everyone it convicts is guilty?


No, but it's less than 1%. I don't believe in making life easier for 99% of the criminals because a very small percentage is innocent. If they're innocent, let's get them out. Them being innocent is no reason to spend more money to coddle people that couldn't act appropriately in a civilized society.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15057 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:32 pm to
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If someone on probation or parole tests positive for THC, it’s still considered a technical violation of their supervision.
If you are on parole, and decide to break the rules set by your parole requirements,,,,,,,,


Oh wait, it's the systems fault?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143774 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:41 pm to
are you upset more so that it's hot in Louisiana during August or the per hour wage they get paid to harvest their own food?

This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 11:31 pm
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14633 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:46 pm to
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If someone on probation or parole tests positive for THC, it’s still considered a violation of their supervision.


FIFY

I mean... they knew they were on probation... and they knew that possession of THC is a violation of that probation... therefore... I fail to see the problem here. Seems rather simple... if you are on probation and have the desire to complete said probation successfully, don't do things that could lead to violating said probation. Right?
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Dirt Booger
Comanche County
Member since Apr 2023
839 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 10:53 pm to
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Possession of cannabis, even a first offense, gets you up to 30 years in prison in Louisiana.


Lmao where do you get this bullshite from
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143774 posts
Posted on 8/18/24 at 11:30 pm to
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Lmao where do you get this bullshite from


Dex Morgan is an idiot. Nobody is going to Angola because of weed.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28014 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:11 am to
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Gotta love this “small-government, conservative” echo chamber.


"Haha! You don't want criminals let loose in the streets? What a small government conservative you are..."
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28014 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:16 am to
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The DOC told the court that it had purchased some sunscreen and a single 10×10 pop-up tent to provide shade for around 20-30 laborers.


If grass cutters can do it so can prisoners.

1hr work, 20 min rest in the shade, you can rotate 4 groups of 8 prisoners.

Sunscreen, water, they're good to go.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21037 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:30 am to
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Then why are our prisons full? How many centuries does this practice take to start deterring crime?


It's kind of like shutting down the economy and forcing masks with COVID only needing to save one life to be worth it.

If just one person was deterred from committing a crime, I'm good.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20977 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:41 am to
Trying to understand what the issue is. Is it that inmates are forced to work in the summer heat?

For comparison:
1) I'm old now, but when HS I (and others) worked all day in the sun, then went to football practice for another 4 hours. None of us thought it harsh. FTR, we got one water break at practice for about 10 minutes. This was SW MS.

2) The roofing Crews here (Katy, TX) start at sun up and work until sunset. Mostly Mexicans. They do take an extended siesta but they have no shade. And you can disabuse yourself of thinking it's dry heat. Our DPs are running upper 70s.

IOW, I have a hard time thinking there is something inhumane about this.

If the concern is that an innocent person would be subjected to this, then I'm all for improving the judicial system. But it's hard for a society to forego any justice until we have perfect justice.

Finally, as a follower of Jesus Christ, I believe man is created in the image of God with an innate sanctity, liberty, and dignity. But when someone takes those from another, they forfeit their own claims to such in principle.

So if these are rapists and murderers, then why are they still above ground?

Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20977 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:45 am to
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Then why are our prisons full? How many centuries does this practice take to start deterring crime?


Who says they haven't? What would crime rates be if prisons and punishments were stopped?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10633 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 12:59 am to
I wish you showed this much compassion for the victims of crime.
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 1:00 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61283 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:25 am to
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If you are on parole, and decide to break the rules set by your parole requirements,,,,,,,, Oh wait, it's the systems fault?


Is weed decriminalized or not? I posted my comment in response to someone claiming no one gets in trouble for weed.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61283 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:29 am to
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No, but it's less than 1%.


Where did this calculation come from? Methodology?

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I don't believe in making life easier for 99% of the criminals because a very small percentage is innocent.


Why not just kill everyone convicted of a crime then?

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If they're innocent, let's get them out.


Do you trust the same system that convicted them to suddenly have a change of heart and release them?

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Them being innocent is no reason to spend more money to coddle people that couldn't act appropriately in a civilized society.[

If this is your reasoning, you must agree that there are several posters in this very thread who are clearly incapable of acting appropriately in a civilized society. Why aren’t you arguing for them to go to Angola?
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 3:40 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61283 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:31 am to
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Well let’s just clear out all the prisons! Because all of ‘em just made a “mistake”


You are literally the only person in this thread suggesting this.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61283 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:37 am to
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Because for the last 60+ years we have celebrated all kinds of immorality and have increasingly refused to hold people accountable for their actions in small things leading them to think they should be free to do as the please in regards to big things. They then find themselves in Angola.


This is completely false.




Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8011 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:58 am to
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“Farm Line” workers


Isn't that one of the most sought after jobs at the prison? It's better than sitting in a 100sf box all day.

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