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re: ‘Grossly insufficient’: Judge blasts DOC-suggested fixes for Angola’s Farm Line
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:00 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:00 pm to Adam Banks
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People who aren’t arrested farm in 90+ degree weather.
Do they have access to clean water, hats and breaks?
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Sounds like a pretty good deterrent to crime to me.
Then why are our prisons full? How many centuries does this practice take to start deterring crime?
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Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:05 pm to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
Bernadette
Please stop
The inmates at Angola are murderers
They have no dignity. Nor do they deserve basic rights
Can you call yourself a modern human if you are a murderer? No!
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:07 pm to Honest Tune
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That’s why you want to have deep empathy for society as a whole, not shallow empathy for criminals.”
I would ask this person what he believes the purpose of prisons are. Do they exist solely to punish people who have been convicted? If so, why do we feign an interest in rehabilitation? Does perpetual punishment cause someone to change their behaviors? Is there evidence that supports this? Does society have an interest in people who have been convicted of crimes changing their behavior? Why not?
It seems that investing in the rehabilitation of people who harm society IS having deep empathy for society as a whole.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:07 pm to ike221
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The inmates at Angola are murderers
Not all of them.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:14 pm to 4cubbies
Does your particular shade of blue hair have a name or just mix mash?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:15 pm to 4cubbies
I'd hate to be the dude who sued and ended up ruining everyone's job outdoors.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:17 pm to 4cubbies
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Then why are our prisons full?
Because for the last 60+ years we have celebrated all kinds of immorality and have increasingly refused to hold people accountable for their actions in small things leading them to think they should be free to do as the please in regards to big things. They then find themselves in Angola.
I have no problem having empathy for prisoners and have worked extensively with them. But being upset because they have to work in the heat isn’t one of those things. I promise you people who are on their death beds in prison aren’t forced to work in the fields.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:20 pm to 4cubbies
You know some people work in 90 degree weather and provide the food that you eat.
Yes it’s by their choice but to say it’s inhumane is wrong.
They should have water.
They should have breaks.
They should have periods of shade.
Just like my husband and his employees have. But to call working in 90 degrees inhumane is asinine.
And yes the inmates chose this when they committed a crime that landed them where they are.
Yes it’s by their choice but to say it’s inhumane is wrong.
They should have water.
They should have breaks.
They should have periods of shade.
Just like my husband and his employees have. But to call working in 90 degrees inhumane is asinine.
And yes the inmates chose this when they committed a crime that landed them where they are.
This post was edited on 8/18/24 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:23 pm to 4cubbies
Because people have free will and some choose poorly.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:24 pm to Dex Morgan
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But maybe you all think the death penalty is appropriate for possession of marijuana and such.
How many people get put in Angola for possession of marijuana?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:25 pm to 4cubbies
quote:how does working make you lose your human dignity?
Does everyone who makes a mistake lose their human dignity?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:28 pm to 4cubbies
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I would ask this person what he believes the purpose of prisons are. Do they exist solely to punish people who have been convicted? If so, why do we feign an interest in rehabilitation? Does perpetual punishment cause someone to change their behaviors? Is there evidence that supports this? Does society have an interest in people who have been convicted of crimes changing their behavior? Why not?
Well, if perpetual punishment DOES NOT cause someone to change their behavior, they are beyond help and do not belong in the general public. They apparently don't have the interest or will to live among civilized people, and as such, need to be locked up. I couldn't care less about rehabbing a criminal. If punishment doesn't make them realize what they did was wrong, then they are beyond help. Sorry if that offends your sensibilities.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:29 pm to Adam Banks
Kamala would agree with you. She loved prison labor as a DA and AG.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:37 pm to MemphisGuy
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How many people get put in Angola for possession of marijuana?
Possession of cannabis, even a first offense, gets you up to 30 years in prison in Louisiana.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:41 pm to Dex Morgan
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Possession of cannabis, even a first offense, gets you up to 30 years in prison in Louisiana.
Walk around New Orleans and smell the air and I can promise you that ain’t true.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:43 pm to Adam Banks
I'm just stating what the law says.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:51 pm to Dex Morgan
Lmao it was decriminalized years ago
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:54 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Prison isn't a deterrent. It's a place to put people who cannot behave in a civilized society. It's up to to them to change their behavior and become acceptable to a normal society. The massive recidivism rate kinda proves the point that some men just need to separated. I do not feel sorry for the inmates in Angola. They did some really bad shite to get to where they are. It's their choice to do the time, and change their behavior.
Then why are our prisons full? How many centuries does this practice take to start deterring crime?
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:55 pm to Sweep Da Leg
Not really. If someone is charged with another crime, and is found to be in possession of weed, they will be charged for the weed, too.
If someone on probation or parole tests positive for THC, it’s still considered a technical violation of their supervision.
If someone on probation or parole tests positive for THC, it’s still considered a technical violation of their supervision.
Posted on 8/18/24 at 9:58 pm to 4cubbies
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Not really. If someone is charged with another crime, and is found to be in possession of weed, they will be charged for the weed, too. If someone on probation or parole tests positive for THC, it’s still considered a technical violation of their supervision.
And?
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