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re: Great Victory for Trump Administration on Fentanyl from China
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:12 am to 3down10
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:12 am to 3down10
Hey moron,
If you “believe there was a real war on drugs for 50 years”, then you should not be allowed to post on here.
That was a commercial ad we have been seeing and hearing while the CIA/DEA being with the bad guys when convenient.
This is a legit “war on drugs”
If you think the changes and aggressive offense by DJT is the same as the past, your a buffoon.
If you “believe there was a real war on drugs for 50 years”, then you should not be allowed to post on here.
That was a commercial ad we have been seeing and hearing while the CIA/DEA being with the bad guys when convenient.
This is a legit “war on drugs”
If you think the changes and aggressive offense by DJT is the same as the past, your a buffoon.
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:14 am to 3down10
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Has it ever occurred to people that the real problem is the demand?
While I mostly agree with regards to heroin and cocaine, Fentanyl is different. The challenge with heroin and coke is that you have users that want their heroin and coke. But the heroin and coke users DONT want their heroin and coke laced with Fent.
I think most of the demand for Fent isn't from end users, but from dealers that use it to lace cut heroin and such.
I think a lot of the opioid ODs are people who never intended to take Fent, but got other drugs that had been laced.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:15 am to Westbank111
quote:
Hey moron,
If you “believe there was a real war on drugs for 50 years”, then you should not be allowed to post on here.
That was a commercial ad we have been seeing and hearing while the CIA/DEA being with the bad guys when convenient.
This is a legit “war on drugs”
If you think the changes and aggressive offense by DJT is the same as the past, your a buffoon.
The only thing we are doing different is breaking the law. We've been seizing drug boats and submarines for decades.
But the "it's real this time" is hilarious.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:16 am to M. A. Ryland
quote:
While I mostly agree with regards to heroin and cocaine, Fentanyl is different. The challenge with heroin and coke is that you have users that want their heroin and coke. But the heroin and coke users DONT want their heroin and coke laced with Fent.
I think most of the demand for Fent isn't from end users, but from dealers that use it to lace cut heroin and such.
I think a lot of the opioid ODs are people who never intended to take Fent, but got other drugs that had been laced.
Yes you are correct. It's why these things need to be legal as crazy as it sounds.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:28 am to 3down10
Just curious, what about prescription drugs? Would you advocate for all drugs do be legal for anyone to buy?
Would you advocate for the dismantling the entire prescription based model?
It seems like you’d have to, yes? Otherwise the drugs are technically illegal unless you have a prescription, which sorta lands you in the same place.
Would you advocate for the dismantling the entire prescription based model?
It seems like you’d have to, yes? Otherwise the drugs are technically illegal unless you have a prescription, which sorta lands you in the same place.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 12:50 am to LSUDropout
quote:
Just curious, what about prescription drugs? Would you advocate for all drugs do be legal for anyone to buy?
Would you advocate for the dismantling the entire prescription based model?
It seems like you’d have to, yes? Otherwise the drugs are technically illegal unless you have a prescription, which sorta lands you in the same place.
Yes for sure. It's ridiculous that an adult has to get permission before taking a substance.
It's kind of like a seat belt. No it shouldn't be a law that you have to wear one, but I think it's pretty dumb if you don't.
Personally, my doctors get mad at me because you can't really get me to take pills.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:05 am to 3down10
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You'll obey and defend all sorts of evil regardless.
Mouthing off on a message board is so noble!
frick you, you self-righteous arse.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 1:07 am to RohanGonzales
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Mouthing off on a message board is so noble!
frick you, you self-righteous arse.
So noble.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:19 am to IvoryBillMatt
Yea, in some countries they kill drug dealers, that seems like it would stop the problem pretty quick.. I'm not for that but some of these street drugs are bad and kill quickly.. Fentanyl is a drug if you sell illegally you should die for, JMO.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:26 am to 3down10
quote:
Has it ever occurred to people that the real problem is the demand?
Has it ever occurred to people that these boat attacks off Venezuela aren’t about stopping Fentanyl (which mostly comes from Mexico), these attacks are about starting a hot war with Venezuela? Has anyone asked why we want a hot war with Venezuela (or Gaza before that or Russia before that or …..)
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:34 am to OccamsStubble
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Has it ever occurred to people that these boat attacks off Venezuela aren’t about stopping Fentanyl (which mostly comes from Mexico), these attacks are about starting a hot war with Venezuela? Has anyone asked why we want a hot war with Venezuela (or Gaza before that or Russia before that or …..)
The policy we're discussing has nothing to do with blowing up boats. This addresses the problem at its source. It works with China to eliminate the foundation blocks for creating fentanyl.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:57 am to 3down10
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It'd be nice if this shite actually worked, but it doesn't.
Because it hasn’t worked doesn’t mean that it can’t work.
Heroin was gone from the streets until (suddenly and mysteriously) it wasn’t.
The allegation is that is wasn’t some street level entrepreneur flooding the streets, but rather, the very people who were supposed to be stopping it from happening in the first place.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:35 am to 3down10
You are assuming the pricing of drugs is elastic, meaning you can charge any price and the customer will pay.
You see it all the time....the price is no longer 20 bucks its 50.....no problem here is a hundred keep the change
You see it all the time....the price is no longer 20 bucks its 50.....no problem here is a hundred keep the change
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:38 am to 3down10
It is complete ignorance to not understand the difference in Dubya"s war on drugs. And purposefully laced synthetic drugs.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:04 am to 3down10
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nor do I think we should go around killing people
Do you think they are killing Venezuelan "fishermen" to stem the drugs into the U.S.?
I don't, I think it's to stem the flow of money to Maduro and weaken one of his sources of funding. I think that is just strategy to remove Maduro, and rugs just happens to be one of the product he is pedaling.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:17 am to 3down10
quote:That 's what confuses me so about the fentanyl (how do you get "fentanol" out of fentanyl?) epidemic. Why is there any demand at all when you don't have a clue how much fentanyl is in a single street dose of whatever you think you are buying? You can never know how much fentanyl is in whatever street drug it is you are buying. The other confusing part of this is why is the supplier making laced doses of whatever and killing off their potential customers.
Has it ever occurred to people that the real problem is the demand?
Posted on 11/17/25 at 7:19 am to 3down10
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That the only thing cutting supply does is increase the prices making it more lucrative for the black market?
Now think it through using the same reasoning in the opposite direction.
What if we INCREASED the supply by flooding the market with fentanyl to lower the street price. Will usage increase or decrease? It will obviously increase, right? Because it will simply be easier for lazy, undisciplined addicts to get it at lower street prices. New addicts will also be drawn to it (people are drawn to bargain prices). So why bother with your argument?
A very significant problem with demand is likely childhood trauma and poor coping skills. Perhaps what we need is more life skills training in our mandatory school curriculum and less frivolous shite. It’ll obviously take multiple generations to erode bad personal life decisions.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 7:34 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:18 am to 3down10
quote:So what’s your solution, decriminalizing all drugs?
Has it ever occurred to people that the real problem is the demand?
That the only thing cutting supply does is increase the prices making it more lucrative for the black market?
50 years of the drug war and not a single victory. Just wasted money and resources while turning cops into the bad guys because they are stuck enforcing laws based on social acceptance.
It'd be nice if this shite actually worked, but it doesn't.
Have you seen what’s happened in the cities that have tried this? It’s been an absolute disaster.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:28 am to bamalee
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Yea, in some countries they kill drug dealers, that seems like it would stop the problem pretty quick.. I'm not for that but some of these street drugs are bad and kill quickly.. Fentanyl is a drug if you sell illegally you should die for, JMO.
I think it is reasonable to kill drug dealers that deal shite like fentanyl. They ruin so many lives.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:34 am to 3down10
Demand is A problem.
Not sure how fricking retarded you have to be to think its THE problem.
Not sure how fricking retarded you have to be to think its THE problem.
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