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re: Govt Assistance and Minimum Wage
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:47 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:47 pm to mindbreaker
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and I'm sure every big business in the US follows that same model as the one example you gave.
Actually they do. It's called supply and demand. I know. Economics is a
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mindbreaker
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 1:53 pm
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:49 pm to Ebbandflow
Conservatives don’t believe that there should be no public assistance because there are a lot of times where it is absolutely needed. However, we don’t want to KEEP people on public assistance. We want to provide an atmosphere where those people can eventually get a job and begin to earn enough money to provide for themselves.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:50 pm to Ebbandflow
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If someone is being paid a wage that is not liveable,
They will move up the ladder, earn more and make room below them for others to enter the job market
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:52 pm to Ebbandflow
60 hours a week at 7.50 anhour is 1800 a month. More than enough for a person to survive.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:57 pm to Dawgfanman
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60 hours a week at 7.50 anhour is 1800 a month. More than enough for a person to survive.
And if they can't, then they need to get a room mate(s) or learn to spend money on necessities.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:02 pm to noonan
And.. You know. Most importantly...
NOT HAVE A MOTHER frickING KID.
NOT HAVE A MOTHER frickING KID.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:27 pm to Ebbandflow
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What he was really doing is trying to discredit my entire argument because I couldn't put it within the frame of Economics which I wasn't trying to do
You quite literally can't have this conversation without basing it on economics. It's not possible.
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It's a common-sense observation and not one that requires a PhD in economics which coincidentally none of you have.
Unfortunately for you, some of us do have significant post-grad work in the field and deal with this shite everyday.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:29 pm to Ebbandflow
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What he was really doing is trying to discredit my entire argument because I couldn't put it within the frame of Economics which I wasn't trying to do
Wow.
Just...wow.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:30 pm to Godfather1
you can't fix stupid guys. Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:30 pm to Ebbandflow
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What he was really doing is trying to discredit my entire argument because I couldn't put it within the frame of Economics which I wasn't trying to do
It's 100% an economic topic. It's literally impossible to talk about the minimum wage and leave out economics
You became aware at some point that your little rant made no economic sense so you tried to get all emotional.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:34 pm to Ebbandflow
Please quit talking about minimum wage. Most people on this board are truly screwed if our bosses find out that they only have to pay us $7.25/hr.
Ask yourself? Why would you pay anybody more than $7.25/hr?
Ask yourself? Why would you pay anybody more than $7.25/hr?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:39 pm to Ebbandflow
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I was just pointing out that right-wing people hate government assistance and also don't like increasing minimum wage which doesn't make any sense in the end and you can't have it both ways.
It's a common-sense observation
There is absolutely no correlation between these two canards without the artificial acceptance of some legislative connection between the two, which has no basis in actual human experience. You are hopelessly lost in some artificial reality which doesn't exist.
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It's a common-sense observation
There is nothing common-sense about it - it is pretty much like thinking that wear boots when you wade or else learn to fly.
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What he was really doing is trying to discredit my entire argument because I couldn't put it within the frame of Economics which I wasn't trying to do
Yeah - too bad you are trying to talk about economic issues without understanding one whit of what economics is all about.
There is stupid - and being so stupid you don't know you are stupid. You fit the latter definition
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:41 pm to roadGator
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Why do you left-wingers have to lie in order to have a conversation?
Because they can't make their argument unless they frame it to their advantage.
For example, "President Trump is a openly racist, and misogynist person, so how can you support him?"
They try to paint you into the corner so that you can't counter their position, or at the very least, are distracted into an argument over their premise. A weak or uninformed person might think, "You're right, I can't support him."
If they were to ask you, "How can you support President Trump?", you could point out all of the facts about job growth, tax reductions, stock market growth, decreased illegal immigration, etc, which are all things that the liberals don't have a truthful answer for.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:56 pm to beerJeep
unfortunately for you I know how to Google things
14 of the 20 largest retailers in the country AVERAGE WAGES are under 10.00 an hour.
so your original post was full of hot garbage
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/25/what-the-20-largest-retailers-in-america-pay-their-employees.html
14 of the 20 largest retailers in the country AVERAGE WAGES are under 10.00 an hour.
so your original post was full of hot garbage
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/25/what-the-20-largest-retailers-in-america-pay-their-employees.html
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:02 pm to mindbreaker
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unfortunately for you I know how to Google things
Good for you. But googling things doesn't equate to understanding the concept behind what you Googled.
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14 of the 20 largest retailers in the country AVERAGE WAGES are under 10.00 an hour.
This disproves supply and demand how? Oh... And that would be the avg starting pay for the entry level retail spots. Not the avg pay of all employees you disingenuous frick.
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so your original post was full of hot garbage
Nope. Try again buckwheat.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:10 pm to mindbreaker
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unfortunately for you I know how to Google things
14 of the 20 largest retailers in the country AVERAGE WAGES are under 10.00 an hour.
so your original post was full of hot garbage
LINK
Average wage of sales associates - the very bottom rung of the ladder and an entry-level position. Let's try to be a little more precise with the language.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:12 pm to AbuTheMonkey
But but but but... He knows how to Google things abu
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:13 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Average wage of sales associates - the very bottom rung of the ladder and an entry-level position. Let's try to be a little more precise with the language.
Which is my point. Every single one of those companies can absolutely afford to increase those entry level raises without damaging the company but don't.
I also don't think forcing them to at the expense of small business is the answer, but acting like they aren't milking the system for every dollar is being willfully ignorant.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:14 pm to beerJeep
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But but but but... He knows how to Google things abu
Dude you aren't worth the effort. You are a typical sheep that gets your talking points fed to you. You are no better than the garbage delusional liberal. You just happen to be on the other side.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:16 pm to mindbreaker
Really? What is the profit margin of each of those companies? If they raised wages for people, could they afford to keep everyone or would they need to let people go?
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