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Govt Assistance and Minimum Wage
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:52 pm
So posters of this board are against govt assistance. The same people have shown to be against minimum wage increase.
Question: How can you have it both ways?
If someone is being paid a wage that is not liveable, they will require assistance. If they make enough to live, they will not be eligible.
Seems to me that the modern day right-winger does love to give their tax dollars to protect the corporate world. This is due to some indoctrination that I do not understand.
First the sponsors of a right-wing radio show or news will lead you to believe that if anyone gets any raises that the company is going to go bankrupt and no one will have any jobs and that trickle down economics will help everyone. Everyone that is including the guy who makes less than a livable wage.
Second, you blame the worker for poor life choices. The problem with this logic is that if the worker did make better life choices and really all workers made better life choices in and did not want to work a minimum wage job because they were more qualified, then who would be hired to do the job? And if no one was hired to do the job because it was all beneath them then they would have to pay more money for to hire people to do those jobs.
Just going in-depth for some of you so that you finally understand how this all works
Question: How can you have it both ways?
If someone is being paid a wage that is not liveable, they will require assistance. If they make enough to live, they will not be eligible.
Seems to me that the modern day right-winger does love to give their tax dollars to protect the corporate world. This is due to some indoctrination that I do not understand.
First the sponsors of a right-wing radio show or news will lead you to believe that if anyone gets any raises that the company is going to go bankrupt and no one will have any jobs and that trickle down economics will help everyone. Everyone that is including the guy who makes less than a livable wage.
Second, you blame the worker for poor life choices. The problem with this logic is that if the worker did make better life choices and really all workers made better life choices in and did not want to work a minimum wage job because they were more qualified, then who would be hired to do the job? And if no one was hired to do the job because it was all beneath them then they would have to pay more money for to hire people to do those jobs.
Just going in-depth for some of you so that you finally understand how this all works
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:53 pm to Ebbandflow
This is perfect insight into the mind of the left 
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:54 pm to Ebbandflow
I would be for government assistance and letting people work. Most of them are trapped in government assistance already. Give them a way to help themselves and not give up government assistance cold turkey.
Would be easy to phase out or reduce government assistance over a 2 or 3 year period for families and individuals.
Would be easy to phase out or reduce government assistance over a 2 or 3 year period for families and individuals.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:55 pm to Ebbandflow
Again minimum wage is what teenagers make at burger king
If you are 40 making minimum wage you have fricked up along the way
If you are 40 making minimum wage you have fricked up along the way
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:57 pm to Ebbandflow
The first job I ever held was a minimum wage job. I was a high school kid. Those jobs are not meant for providers. Do you not realize that low skill jobs are never going to pay well? Register lady at Mickey D’s Is not a career.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:59 pm to Cosmo
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Again minimum wage is what teenagers make at burger king
That is a very blanket generalization and one that is unquantifiable. In other words, you were just talking out of your arse.
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you are 40 making minimum wage you have fricked up along the way
This could be true in some cases and not true in others. Some people have an IQ of 80 and some people have made some poor choices like drug addiction etc.
Either way, they deserve to pay rent.
Your point of view is one that is very corporate coddling and assumes that everyone making minimum wage lives with their parents. You also seem to forget that minimum wage is a thing that has been increasing incrementally overtime in modern history.
If you want to be up in arms about something, this is not your fight
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:00 pm to Ebbandflow
Sorry you are still making minimum wage or receiving Govt Assistance
Must of us have grown up and gotten past that
Must of us have grown up and gotten past that
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:00 pm to Ebbandflow
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they deserve to pay rent.
What the frick does this mean?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:02 pm to SDVTiger
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Must of us have grown up
You may have missed a grade along the way. Lol
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:03 pm to Ebbandflow
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lead you to believe that if anyone gets any raises that the company is going to go bankrupt and no one will have any jobs
The worker isn't "getting a raise" if the Fed Gov points a gun at the owner and demands he pay more. A worker "gets a raise" by being more productive and having the owner WANT to retain him.
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you blame the worker for poor life choices
yep
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The problem with this logic is that if the worker did make better life choices and really all workers made better life choices in and did not want to work a minimum wage job because they were more qualified, then who would be hired to do the job?
Employers will pay MORE when the labor market demands MORE by scarcity.
This is when those immigrants (LEGAL) come in handy, BTW.
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Just going in-depth for some of you so that you finally understand how this all works
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:03 pm to Monday
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Register lady at Mickey D’s Is not a career.
I know. They were making $4.25 when I was in high school. And also by your post your kind of admitting that the only Industries really affected would be fast food correct?
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:04 pm to Ebbandflow
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If someone is being paid a wage that is not liveable, they will require assistance.
No, that's not how real reality works, only liberal reality.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:04 pm to Ebbandflow
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You may have missed a grade along the way. Lol
Minimum wage worker response. Lol
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:06 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Employers will pay MORE when the labor market demands MORE by scarcity.
So what would be the difference between that and raising minimum wage?
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This is when those immigrants (LEGAL) come in handy, BTW.
Well then what would Republicans do if they didn't have those? Again this is one of those situations where you can't have it both ways. Most businessmen are Republicans and are always for cutting regulations and always for cutting cost and always for f****** the American people
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:06 pm to Ebbandflow
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So posters of this board are against govt assistance. The same people have shown to be against minimum wage increase.
Question: How can you have it both ways?
It's not "both ways", it's the same way: go out and work your way up.
Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage people could use to live on their own, it's an entry wage for low-to-no-skill workers.
Either get proficient enough at your job to get a raise/promotion, get some form of continuing education (certifications, vo-tech, college, etc) or in an ideal world get both.
Don't want to put in the time and/or effort to make something more of yourself than mopping the floors at the IHOP? Then you get minimum wage, it's that simple.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:06 pm to Ebbandflow
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So what would be the difference between that and raising minimum wage?
Yikes.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:07 pm to Ebbandflow
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So what would be the difference between that and raising minimum wage?
A voluntary business decision versus mandating by the government.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:07 pm to Ebbandflow
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So posters of this board are against govt assistance.
I assure you every poster on this board isn't against govt assistance, just the current policy of govt assistance that provided zero incentive to actively find employment.
I'm sure most would get behind something like, you're required to provide so many hours of community service to receive govt assistance if unemployed.
Contrary to what you think, most non-leftists don't want people to go hungry, be homeless, etc. They simply want them to provide some type of service to society in order to receive benefits.
Which is really the hallmark of a functioning society, everybody chipping in.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:07 pm to Ebbandflow
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If someone is being paid a wage that is not liveable, they will require assistance.
No, they don't "require" assistance.
Your entire premise is false, therefore the rest of your argument is pointless.
Next.
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:09 pm to Ebbandflow
Oh Jeebus Christ
It's germandawg economics
Hey OP. You're asking questions that show you are too ignorant to understand the answers
It's germandawg economics
Hey OP. You're asking questions that show you are too ignorant to understand the answers
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