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re: GOP controlled Senate just passed measure to terminate Trump's tariffs on Canada 51-48

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Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21240 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:23 pm to
I just read something that said the House will have to pass it, and then Trump would have to sign off on it. So if true, frick them because it ain’t happening!
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5676 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:25 pm to
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Libertarians support free trade and free immigration.


Who are the right leaning libertarians who believe in "open borders"? Name some names.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14391 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:35 pm to
Now has to go to the house
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28369 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:37 pm to
Useless
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8156 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:38 pm to
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Who are the right leaning libertarians who believe in "open borders"? Name some names.


What do right leaning libertarians actually want TO DO?

They do not seem to spend much time promoting anything.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:40 pm to
They sure do like republican money and voters.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10849 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Kentucky is the 47th out of 50 in states economies and we always have Massie, Turtle and now Paul against the agenda


During a normal time in America, I would be able to appreciate the principle stances of these guys. I think it’s fricking cute these asswipes think their children will have a safe America to live in. They can’t be bothered to read the room and notice a COUP is being run on this presidency again. USAID, FBI, assassinations attempted, elections being stolen, communists rioting…BUT WE MUST WORRY ABOUT TARIFFS. They obviously think America coming to an end won’t affect them.


This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 2:23 pm
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5676 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:42 pm to
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What do right leaning libertarians actually want TO DO?

They do not seem to spend much time promoting anything.


They want to fix it. Like right leaning libertarian Milei in Argentina.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6760 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 8:43 pm to
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Can you figure out why?


Kentucky produces 95% of the world’s Bourbon. Tariffs would hurt foreign prices and sales
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 8:44 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6373 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Who are the right leaning libertarians who believe in "open borders"? Name some names.


What about I one up that. Why don't I post you some quotes and some readings like this one:

Libertarian case for open borders:

The right to migrate can be considered a corollary of the libertarian view that people should be free to do what they please (individually or collectively) unless it violates the rights of others.

A more moderate version: restrictions of the right to migrate are only moral if there is clear evidence of very bad consequences. We might call this moderate version a presumptive right to migrate.


Libertarians’ view of obligations to strangers has two core premises. First, no obligations to strangers beyond respecting their rights. Second, a very strong obligation to respect their rights. Together, these premises argue in favor of not letting concerns about harms to fellow nationals be a justification for opposing free migration.

LINK


Economist and libertarian theorist Walter Block argues that restrictions on immigration are incompatible with libertarianism.

Libertarian author Jacob Hornberger, a proponent of freer immigration policies, argues that open borders is the only libertarian immigration position.

Political philosopher Adam James Tebble argues that more open borders aid both the economic and institutional development of poorer migrant sending countries, contrary to "brain-drain" critiques of migration.

Jeffrey Miron and the CATO Institute(Libertarian think tank):


Forget the Wall Already, It’s Time for the U.S. to Have Open Borders (headline)

America has nothing to fear, and much to gain, from open borders. Trump has it exactly backwards: The solution to America’s immigration problems is open borders, under which the United States imposes no immigration restrictions at all. If the U.S. adopts this policy, the benefits will far outweigh the costs.

LINK

Need more?



Well here is an extra bonus. Mr Block, the libertarian economist..etc. He was a socialist.


One more bonus... Milton Friedman: "I am in favor of free immigration"







Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9629 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:15 pm to
Rand Paul is just a mouthy little bitch. I cannot think of one substantive thing he has accomplished
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5676 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:31 pm to
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One more bonus... Milton Friedman: "I am in favor of free immigration"




Friedman said you can't have open borders in a welfare state. That was his position.

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Need more?



Yes. Right leaning is Austrian/hayekian. Who among the Austrian economists believe in open borders?
This post was edited on 4/2/25 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4021 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:44 pm to
Good
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3241 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:46 pm to
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Kentucky produces 95% of the world’s Bourbon. Tariffs would hurt foreign prices and sales


Bingo! This is them getting what they have been paying for.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6373 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 9:51 pm to
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Friedman said you can't have open borders in a welfare state. That was his position.





Here is the question and the answer he gave:

There's another question. Should the USA open its borders to all immigrants? What's your opinion on that?

I am in favor of free immigration, but not if you have a welfare state.

He also said in that same interview:

I would like to see a world in which you could have open immigration.

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