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re: GoodYear issues complete statement.... "it was not distributed through corprate"

Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:13 pm to
So All Lives Matter and Support the Blue t-shirts along with Black Lives Matter shirt are allowed? If not, this is a violation of freedom of speech, freedom of expression.
Better answer needed before I will ever buy another Goodyear tire.


Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:14 pm to
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we ask that employees refrain from political statements outside of those of racial justice" certainly seems to suggest that "Black Lives Matter" is an acceptable statement but "Back the Blue" would not be. so... the slide was correct?


I agree, and if they’re waiting for me to buy tires from them they might as well change their name to Badyear.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:14 pm to
Oh, I know why. However, Goodyear is trying to talk about of both sides of their corporate mouth. "We think all lives matter, but black lives matter more."
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Better answer needed before I will ever buy another Goodyear tire.


Goodyear's statement doesn't even make it better. They basically said that they don't allow political advocacy except for in a couple of cases where they totally allow political advocacy

The stupid f**** have no self-awareness
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:16 pm to
What evidence was there that that this infamous slide even existed? It sounds rather like cancel culture to go on here say and attempt to destroy people over it.

Edit: nm they say it themselves right there, we don’t allow except....


Sounds very hypocritical and unfair on their part but nobody is forcing me to work there either. Y’all do realized the president just engaged in cancel culture right
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:17 pm to
Now we know where social justice warriors with useless degrees in Critical Race Theory get hired: as woke PR flacks who write weasel worded corporate statements about a company’s commitment to diversity and inclusion.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:18 pm to
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absurd


we will see. gillette lost some cash.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:19 pm to
Their statement tries to distance itself from the visual but within the statement they make the same assertion. Basically if you agree with the left on so-called Equity issues you can talk your arse off and wear what you want. Everything else is off limits. That's like your wife telling you she's faithful except for the three guys down the street she's going to f***. But since she's being faithful you can't f*** anybody
Posted by Philzilla2k
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:19 pm to


Posted by weptiger
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:19 pm to
They didn’t deny the content or the slides existence, only that it didn’t come from “corporate.”
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:19 pm to
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at evidence was there that that this infamous slide even existed? It sounds rather like cancel culture to go on here say and attempt to destroy people over it.


Given that their statement effectively takes the same position as the slide I'm going to go out on a limb and say the slide probably existed
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:19 pm to
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Why is Goodyear involving themselves in any kind of advocacy? That still doesn't explain why "Black Lives Matter" is good, but "All Lives Matter" is bad.


Because in their minds, BLM is not a political statement...it's a statement of fact. Think back to the phrase, "it's a human rights issue" that got tossed around a lot when companies began first kowtowing to the mob as the riots started. People mad that they were doing this started complaining and nearly every one of them repeated some form of, "It's not a political issue, it's a human rights issue." Can't tell you how many companies I'd bought thousands of dollars of products from over the years I stopped following and decided to never buy from again thanks to that little rhetorical game.

When you frame your own point of view as a truth and not a well reasoned opinion, there's no reason to entertain any arguments about it. And when your point of view is a truth, and someone attempts to offer a rebuttal, then that's obviously false by definition. It can be ignored out of hand. And, if you've been so bold as to not only declare your position true but also GOOD, then the opposition is not just false but Evil. At that point, anyone that continues to espouses those claims are asking to be reprimanded...
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:20 pm to
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we will see. gillette lost some cash.


You think Gillette lost 8B in revenue?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:22 pm to
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So All Lives Matter and Support the Blue t-shirts along with Black Lives Matter shirt are allowed?


No.

BLM, since they have decided that represents "racial injustice and equity" are allowed. All others are considered political, so not allowed.
Posted by ALLin4LSU
Member since Oct 2016
1419 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:24 pm to
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Because in their minds, BLM is not a political statement...it's a statement of fact. Think back to the phrase, "it's a human rights issue" that got tossed around a lot when companies began first kowtowing to the mob as the riots started. People mad that they were doing this started complaining and nearly every one of them repeated some form of, "It's not a political issue, it's a human rights issue." Can't tell you how many companies I'd bought thousands of dollars of products from over the years I stopped following and decided to never buy from again thanks to that little rhetorical game.


Except:
quote:

"Well I tell you what, If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."
. — Joe Biden

There are many more but when he man running for president politicizes race then they can no longer hide behind a human rights issue.


Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35244 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:25 pm to
gillette loses 8bbn

surely you will retort that its a write down or not the real numbers, blah blah
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39569 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Sounds like they're just trying to avoid a boycott, but still hate America.


So they hate Americans but still want us to buy their product. Interesting strategy.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:29 pm to
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There are many more but when he man running for president politicizes race then they can no longer hide behind a human rights issue.


In reality, they can't hide behind it at all. The problem is far too few people stop those conversations at that point and ask them to show their work.

The minute someone asserts something along the lines of "white privilege" or "systemic racism" or any one of the host of buzzwords tossed around which sounds great but have no facts attached to them, they need to be stopped right there and told to "prove your assertion. Show me the facts which back this up."

Otherwise, you have a multi billionaire black lady talking about how even the poorest white folks have their whiteness to fall back on and that gives them privilege over her...and people lap it up.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:29 pm to


Still going apparently.
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