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re: Germany: AfD picks up another win in a state election today

Posted on 9/21/26 at 7:34 am to
Posted by SWCBonfire
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 7:34 am to
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They won't get over 50% and the other parties won't cooperate with them to form a government.


Likely, but I have zero feel for how this is going in the western parts of Germany. The states where the AFD have recently performed well were formerly in East Germany. The west turns up their nose at places like this; this is their deep south/flyover country equivalent in the minds of elites.

Even if the AFD does better in the west (which they may very well do), you will have the equivalent of dogs and cats living together to freeze them out of power. Former adversarial parties will form a government to keep them out of power. Other EU states will likely do everything they can to ensure it doesn't happen.

AFD has an uphill battle. It really will take complete fatigue of the overall electorate for them to take power. That is separate from their policy/ actions that may have worldwide defense and trade implications.

Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:22 am to
Germany amd Italy getting back together - what could go wrong??? Perhaps Japan can join in?

Ha ha
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:24 am to
Very notable that AfD’s support is largely in the former GDR.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:26 am to
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this globalist leader refuses to step down. he is the most unpopular leader in the history of germany. these globalist present russia as the threat to their countries rather than themselves. it is blackrock/globalism that is killing these european countries. not putin.

He still has a coalition government that supports him. State level elections in smaller eastern states are not going to topple the national government.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:26 am to
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They won't get over 50% and the other parties won't cooperate with them to form a government.


That 5% requirement to get any representation helps them out a lot.

38% isn’t a majority but when about 6 other parties come in just below 5% it slides you a LOT closer to having 50% of the seats actually handed out.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:27 am to
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Yes they oppose immigration but they also support Russia and cutting defense spending by Germany. That hurts NATO while helping NATOs most likely opponent.



I don't see a problem. Europe would be better off changing their approach to Russia, stop agitating Russia and open up trade. They'd have much better results.....
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:33 am to
Eva Vlaardingerbroek

Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:45 am to
Italy and Germany getting the band back together?
Maybe Italy can carry it's own weight this time.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:45 am to
Good.

Mertz did this to himself.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:52 am to
Europe seems to hate a long love/hate relationship with Russia.

Over history there have been times of cooperation and then animosity.

Europe has more in common with ethnic Russia than the Islamic world, but Europe has always tended to treat them as their backward cousins.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 8:55 am to
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Good.

Mertz did this to himself.


He's going to be under tremendous pressure of which he won't be successful. 16 months in and supposed to have 4 years Good luck staying in power guy.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 9:02 am to
The problem is the Parliamentary system. It forces parties to form coalitions .
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:42 am to
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Maybe Italy can carry it's own weight this time.


Think Meloni banned some Muslim head coverings in schools over the weekend so they've got that going for them
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:48 am to
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An explosive election day across the globe.

Before the ‘shock’ of the Saxony-Anhalt state elections several weeks ago had time to wear off, Germany’s Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern round proceeded to deliver a double gut-punch to the Brussels-aligned establishment.

AfD again dominated in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, and though it was to be expected it nonetheless caused another round of shock waves through the fretting German state:




The ruling CDU party plunged by around 8% from the ~13% it enjoyed the last time. In fact, CDU has now fallen below the 5% threshold to even be represented in the state parliament at all, which means they will not be accorded even a single seat. This has never before happened to the party in any state election; an historic downfall.

Meanwhile, in Berlin the leftwing Die Linke party secured victory, likewise crushing the CDU which had dominated in the last outing. The failed Reichskanzler Friedrich Merz stood whey-faced and deflated as he miserably declared a day of disaster:


‘Tis what the Faustian BlackRock Bargain brings you, Herr Reichskanzler.

Let us all take a moment to mock and jeer at the most disgraced leader in German history. Point to your screen, and enjoy a hearty laugh at the pinched and prune-like aspect of the abject nincompoop.

The ex-BlackRock banker and Trilateral Commission stooge has the lowest approval rating of any leader in German history. The reviled abomination who has brought his country to the brink of ruin has now announced his refusal to do the honorable thing and resign, instead choosing to continue his wretched scut work of wringing out the German taxpayer for his globalist paymasters just a little while longer.

LINK
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 10:49 am to
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I could either fix or disappoint her for sure


I'd definitely work hard at it either way...
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 9/21/26 at 11:08 am to
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this globalist leader refuses to step down. he is the most unpopular leader in the history of germany. these globalist present russia as the threat to their countries rather than themselves. it is blackrock/globalism that is killing these european countries. not putin.


He is unpopular for all the right reasons: he is cutting pensions, cutting healthcare, tightening out-of-work benefits, breaking the "firewall" by cooperating with the AfD on migration, etc. Germany is not going to get a Chancellor as good as Merz on substantive issues. But, yeah, he doesn't play the rhetoric game all that well.
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