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re: Georgia Rinos are furious at Trump. Here are a few on record.

Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:05 pm to
I don't mind him attacking Kemp and Brad R., but probably a really bad ideal to attack Kemp's wife...He needs the women big time this election to not come out in drove's to vote for Kamala.

Got no ideal who is advising Trump, but they need to get through to him. He shouldn't say anymore crap about this Georgia election fraud crap before the election and hope people get over it..
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19724 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:07 pm to
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On the flip side the MAGA people believe they are the only true Republicans. It works both ways.

I have no use for men/women like Romney, McCain, Liz Cheney, I recognize the party left me. I never left the party. There is no longer a place for me in the establishment Republican Party. I no longer am represented there.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19724 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:12 pm to
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Some of us has IQ above Kamala Harris and can discuss 2 different things at the same time.

Haha, you is a college graduate? Ain’tcha? You also has a lawyer degree?
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:35 pm to
Trump is right. Georgia has gone to hell.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19508 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 12:03 am to
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Kemp should sit on his hands and don’t help Trump at all. That’s what a lot of Republicans did in 2020 and Trump ended up losing.
that's exactly what he's doing; it was this pronouncement that incensed the now official head of the RNC- Donald Trump.

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On the flip side the MAGA people believe they are the only true Republicans.
unlike in the Democratic party the voters have spoken. The contrast was striking this time MAGA (Trump) vs. Haley (GOPe). And the Republican voters stated what they wanted the Republican party to be.

GOPe didn't have their party "hijacked" by Trump. Kemp and establishment GOP were holding it hostage from the voters.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56211 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 6:13 am to
Might lose Georgia?

The cabal already took it
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10472 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:59 am to
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On the flip side the MAGA people believe they are the only true Republicans.

It works both ways.



Governor Meemaw is definitely not MAGA...but she didnt aid in the subversion of an election and then coverup of that election fraud
This post was edited on 8/6/24 at 8:05 am
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
5555 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:02 am to
Trump made a huge mistake here. This is concerning. There is no excuse to not win Georgia. Man keeps on digging deeper holes.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10472 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:04 am to
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Trump had some unusual tactics to win over fence sitters.


Imagine how low your IQ and/or character must be to be a fence sitter between a groomer death cult party who destroys everything they get their hands on and Trump. I dont want those people in the party. I dont want their influence on the GOP campaigns. Id rather all these fence sitters just go be Democrats and stop trying to return the GOP to the good ol Bush/Cheney/Romney/Mccain days
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:07 am to
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But RINO? Negro please.


That used to mean that you were talking about a Republican who did not adhere to conservative principles.

Now the base hates anyone who actually adheres to conservative principles and sneers at the notion of doing so, so now the term simply means someone who isn't slavishly loyal to Trump.

You know how the left constantly changes the meaning of words? That's another feature of populism I've noticed. The left has been in the populism game at least since Karl Marx, the right has only picked it up relatively recently. But they're catching up fast on all the populist tricks.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:25 am to
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Imagine how low your IQ and/or character must be to be a fence sitter between a groomer death cult party who destroys everything they get their hands on and Trump.


Let's assume you don't really know anything about music (you might, I don't know, but for the sake of argument let's assume).

Let's say that you have the choice of buying a Gibson Les Paul or a Fender Telecaster. You have to pick one of them. You've never plugged a guitar into an amp in your life, you've just enjoyed the music that other people have made with them without paying the slightest bit of attention to what types of guitars they were playing.

Let's say that for whatever reason, your only opportunity to get educated on either one is about an hour's worth of listening to someone else talk about them, and I don't mean an hour's worth at one time, I mean an hour's worth spread over 8 months in 2 minute increments.

Let's further say that the people you're listening to talking about the relative merits of these two very different guitars don't really know much about them themselves, and let's say that they are highly biased in favor of one of them and against the other.

The Telecaster looks really cool to you and you can't tell anything about the way it seems to sound that would be a negative, but all the people talking about it act like it's assumed that it is an inferior guitar. Even though some really famous musicians whose music you really like have played one.

So you think to yourself, "Maybe there's something about that guitar that I'm just not considering. The people who report on these guitars on t.v. must know something I don't know. Plus, everybody I know says the same sorts of things about it. The other day, John at the bank said, very sarcastically, 'If you open a new account here we'll give you a toaster...or maybe a Telecaster (chuckle and wink).' They must know something I don't. Maybe it sounds o.k. but it's really hard to play. Maybe it isn't good quality, so it looks cool but falls apart after a few years. I don't know...I like it, but no one else seems to, except these crazy arse people who hang around the music store and talk about these ridiculous conspiracy theories about George Soros having a plot to eliminate all alder wood so that no new Telecasters can be built. I just don't know."

That's exactly how there are still fence sitters. The average American does not care about politics or politicians and they will not educate themselves, because nothing going on in the real world is as interesting as the latest episode of House of Dragons or some reality show about naked dating.

They do not understand—nor do most of them even believe—that their lives are directly affected by politicians. Because they do not believe or understand that, they do not care. Just like someone who just enjoys music without knowing anything about how it is made. So they literally only have a tiny fraction of the information with which to make their decisions as the average poster here, and the information they do have is heavily biased.

I don't understand why so many people here cannot wrap their minds around the idea of a swing voter. Surely to God you all know people who are like this. I certainly do.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94205 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:27 am to
I hope you used Chatgpt to type that wall of nonsense for you
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:33 am to
Jeb Bush was the popular governor of an enormous swing state
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10472 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:42 am to
These low information "swing voters" are far overestimated. They for sure dont give a damn about Trump tweeting about Kemp. Even amongst the low information crowd, they are usually in some camp...usually Democrats because that is the pop culture socially acceptable stance.

Altering behavior and policy to attract these people is a recipe for stupidity.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:21 am to
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I hope you used Chatgpt to type that wall of nonsense for you


And I wish stupidity was painful and you were out of Ibuprofen.

But I don't think either one of us is going to get what they want today.

But...thanks for announcing your lack of mental capacity like several people here do when they seem proud to announce that they are incapable of reading a few paragraphs.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10784 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:22 am to
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These low information "swing voters" are far overestimated.


In number, you mean?

I don't know that I've ever heard anyone estimate how many of them there are, because that's not the point of considering them.

The point is that they are the ones who elect the POTUS. The rest of us just cancel each other out.
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1274 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:33 am to
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His only crime? Did you not see what he did in the 2020 election which caused Trump to lose Georgia? There is solid, legit evidence of widespread voter fraud that happened in Georgia in 2020

I believe this to be true as well. There were in excess of 30,000 fraudulent/illegal votes cast, and arguably more. The election was decided by 11,000. Kemp did not actually do anything about the fraud but SOS Raffensperger is really the one constitutionally accountable for what happened.

Kemp has been a good Governor overall. He and Trump got crossed up when Kemp decided to open up Georgia during the Covid without coordinating with Trump or getting Trump's permission. They have been at logger heads ever since thet fight.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72028 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:35 am to
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Why did the crowd cheer extra load when Trump attacked Kemp?


Because it was a Trump rally filled with Trump supporters

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46402 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:38 am to
either you accept there was fraud in Georgia or you are brain dead. If you are NOT brain dead, why would you be so worried about potentially upsetting whatever tiny sliver of voters who are Kemp-firsters and would abandon their party over Kemp's fee-fees? Apply pressure and magnification on unresolved election integrity issues. Shame those in a position to fix it, and hopefully the people of GA force action in response. Its a MUCH smarter play because otherwise, you CAN NOT win anyway.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:44 am to
I'm gonna go right about forcing that action with Kemp today

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