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re: "Gender affirming healthcare"
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Language and meaning changes over time....all the time so that by itself does not bother me
So why would an educated person accept a meaning that was changed only a few years ago and accepted by only the minority instead of a meaning accepted since Adam and Eve? Is it because if you accept the true meaning then you have to accept that Transgender is a false reality?
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 6:43 pm
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:43 pm to Taxing Authority
The “spectrum” cannot exist outside the defining binary. Irony
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:49 pm to SOSFAN
quote:SOS, I know that you are not particularly educated, but I would have hoped that you would be better-able to read than this.
I would expect you to say this when you change your opinions post to post.
I have plenty of faults, but I do NOT change my positions mid-argument. I cannot be blamed if the subtleties of my positions go (far) over your head.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:51 pm to HoopyD
The word "gender" is being forced down our throats, first by progressives and now by everyone that has adopted progressive language either knowingly or subconsciously. No one used the term gender to refer to living things 20 years ago. Sex referred to biology and gender referred to inanimate object in latin languages. They openly admit that gender means how a person feels and sex refers to biology and we still insist on using their imprecise and incorrect language and I can't figure why other than people just want to fit in.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:53 pm to SOSFAN
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you believe telling a mentally ill person that what they think and believe is correct is helping them?
Based on the data so far with folks that have undergone transition ...yes with rigorous evaluation. My beef with the affirming care model in the US is rush to move these folks along though to transition. The data is so limited and we seem to be moving to fast.The move to transition kids, trans in sports and other issues I disagree with.
Let me ask you this....let's say in the future we are able to a transplant our brains from one body to another. If a man transfered his brain into a woman's body...would he become a she? Or If someone's body became purely synthetic...would they have a gender?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:54 pm to AggieHank86
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have plenty of faults, but I do NOT change my positions mid-argument. I cannot be blamed if the subtleties of my positions go (far) over your head.
Pedohank you change your position with the same frequency that people Change underwear. Then your mo is to deny your previous position. Everyone on this board sees right through you but that narcissist personality refuses to let you admit it.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:56 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Based on the data so far with folks that have undergone transition ...yes with rigorous evaluation. My beef with the affirming care
The data says that those that undergo surgery and hormones having a higher suicide rate than those that don't so you would be wrong.
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me ask you this....let's say in the future we are able to a transplant our brains from one body to another. If a man transfered his brain into a woman's body...would he become a she? Or If someone's body became purely synthetic...would they have a gender?
When you have to switch your argument to fantasy you should know your arguments don't stand up to reason.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:57 pm to mahdragonz
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Women who get breast implants have body dysphoria on what they think their gender should look like. They mutilate their bodies and insert foreign materials in it. Why do you think they are altering their sex organs? They try to "affirm" their bodies for their gender. Should only one group have that choice?
This is absolutely incoherent. What is your argument?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:05 pm to the808bass
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We assign gender to animals solely based upon genitalia.
We seem to assign.gender for different reasons I guess was my point. ...why are cars or boats usually girls..it seems so arbitrary....kinda meandering aorry
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:05 pm to SOSFAN
Why is gender dysphoria the ONLY dysphoric or dysmorphic condition that the medical community affirms, and ONLY once it became a political issue?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:11 pm to SOSFAN
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When you have to switch your argument to fantasy you should know your arguments don't stand up to reason.
Indulge me please....
This gets get into a conversation about consciousness and I would really like your perspective.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:12 pm to ThuperThumpin
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We seem to assign.gender for different reasons I guess was my point. ...why are cars or boats usually girls..it seems so arbitrary....kinda meandering aorry
We assign gender to inanimate objects in language. We also have neuter nouns in language. Does that mean some people should be no gender? (It doesn’t.).
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:15 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Indulge me please....
Whatever your chromosomes are is what you are.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:18 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Why is gender dysphoria the ONLY dysphoric or dysmorphic condition that the medical community affirms, and ONLY once it became a political issue?
I say follow the money. How much are pharmaceutical companies making off of medical treatments for gender care.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:35 pm to SOSFAN
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I say follow the money. How much are pharmaceutical companies making off of medical treatments for gender care.
That’s a second order cause. Marxists love transgenderism. They have since the beginning of Marxism.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:36 pm to SOSFAN
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The data says that those that undergo surgery and hormones having a higher suicide rate than those that don't so you would be wrong.
Can you point me to that study? I can point you to several dozen that say the opposite and a comprehensive analysis of all of them. Here is one such analysis LINK Again the data isn't great particularly on the subject of suicide.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:38 pm to HoopyD
The Blue I work for just got sued last week for $5 million for denying "gender affirming" surgery to a 15 year old. If my company loses I can see a lot of mentally ill parents seeing this as there get rich quick scheme. It's a PNW company so it's going to be interesting.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:48 pm to SOSFAN
I think it’s abundantly clear that Thuper loves trannyism and isn’t “just asking questions.”
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:51 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Dr. Paul McHugh, the university distinguished service professor of psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, explains:
Transgendered men do not become women, nor do transgendered women become men. All (including Bruce Jenner) become feminized men or masculinized women, counterfeits or impersonators of the sex with which they ‘identify.’ In that lies their problematic future.
When ‘the tumult and shouting dies,’ it proves not easy nor wise to live in a counterfeit sexual garb. The most thorough follow-up of sex-reassigned people—extending over 30 years and conducted in Sweden, where the culture is strongly supportive of the transgendered—documents their lifelong mental unrest. Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:52 pm to SOSFAN
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Whatever your chromosomes are is what you are.
Do you think it would be right to allow someone with a chromosomal abnormality like Morris syndrome that lived as a woman for their young life continue to do so....even though they are chromosomly a male?
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