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re: "Gender affirming healthcare"

Posted on 7/20/23 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 9:57 pm to
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Aw man....we almost had a whole discussion without you trying to insult me or suss me out as something I'm not.
One day, you will come to understand that there are MAYBE a dozen posters on this forum who can engage in a good-faith discussion WITHOUT accusing the other participant of some legal, moral or sexual failing or deviancy.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:00 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:01 pm to
They do non binary surgery too now.

So like leave a breast mound for women to feel feminine if they choose that day.

Or go full in no part downstairs. Or leave vagina canal and just create a shaft.

Oh and they have limited knowledge on adolescent surgery and the psychological effects, yet still perform them in children with glee. It’s a science experiment for these fricking freaks.



This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:03 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30092 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:02 pm to
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One day, you will come to understand that there are MAYBE a dozen posters on this forum who can engage in a good-faith discussion WITHOUT accusing the other participant of some legal, moral or sexual failing or deviancy.


You called someone a moron three posts up. Lol.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:04 pm to
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You called someone a moron three posts up.
Yes. When you call me a "pedo," you sacrifice any right to reciprocal civility.

Every third post, that ... individual ... accuses me of holding positions that I have NEVER argued. He IS a moron.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:05 pm to
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One day, you will come to understand that there are MAYBE a dozen posters on this forum who can engage in a good-faith discussion WITHOUT accusing the other participant of some legal, moral or sexual failing or deviancy.


Maybe stop trying to play this game trying to make these people seem reasonable.

You are changing the sex organs of people who have never experienced sex, self stimulation, or even know how reproduction works.

You are permanently screwing these people up and setting them up to suicide.


This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7404 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:07 pm to
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it would appear transgender as a whole is 9 times greater than regular kids. But post op is 20x greater.


Again you point out one study.I pointed out an analysis of dozens of studies that found nothing conclusive regarding suicide post op. But that doesn't mean that suicide post op isn't an issue.

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Genital mutilation leads more kids to suicide. Amazing revelation. Who woulda thunk it.


I hit a registration wall. Did this study actually look at minors transitioning. I dont support that btw.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:07 pm to
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You are changing the sex organs of people who have never experienced sex, self stimulation, or even know how reproduction works.
This thread was not about minors. Read the OP.

Is ANYONE in this thread advocating transition surgery for minor children? No. None. Nada. Zero. Zilch.

Red herring.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:08 pm to
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Again you point out one study.I pointed out an analysis of dozens of studies that found nothing conclusive regarding suicide post op. But that doesn't mean that suicide post op isn't an issue.


They are more likely to suicide post op.

You are finding bunk studies. They try their best to hide this shite.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:08 pm to
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I hit a registration wall. Did this study actually look at minors transitioning.
Of course not.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:08 pm to
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This thread was not about minors. Read the OP. Is ANYONE in this thread advocating transition surgery for minor children? No. None. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Red herring.


So you aren’t?

But gender affirming care is more in the younger crowd.

So this is you deflecting the problem.


This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:09 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:10 pm to
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This thread was not about minors. Read the OP. Is ANYONE in this thread advocating transition surgery for minor children? No. None. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Red herring.
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So you aren’t?

No. I have said the same thing probably a thousand times.

Yet the same posters continue to insist that I advocate for it. Why? Should I use the "M" word again?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39619 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:11 pm to
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Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth.

LINK


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Among gay and bisexual men, 12% to 17% had thought about taking their lives in the past year, 5% had made a suicide plan, and about 2% had made a suicide attempt. Among lesbian or gay women and bisexual women, 11% to 20% had thoughts of suicide, 7% had made a suicide plan, and about 3% had made a suicide attempt.


LINK

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Eleven studies have been conducted looking at whether gender dysphoria persists throughout childhood. On average 80% of children change their minds and do not continue into adulthood as transgender


LINK

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Ten to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers.


LINK


Why are they killing themselves more than pre-op trans people? And if most of these affirmed kids, by adolescence, are just gay, why are they still 10 times more likely to attempt suicide than gays?

And what evidence can you show us that this type of transition benefits children in any meaningful way?


Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:11 pm to
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Conclusions Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.


Basically the only study that followed trans people for 30 years.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39619 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:12 pm to
This is the typical Aggie “I agree with you but I will argue with you for 35 pages” schtick
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:13 pm to
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No. I have said the same thing probably a thousand times. Yet the same posters continue to insist that I advocate for it. Why? Should I use the "M" word again?


Okay but this should be in your mind when voting and when talking about the entire topic.

This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 10:14 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:14 pm to
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And what evidence can you show us that this type of transition benefits children in any meaningful way?
PERFECT example of what I was saying above.

This Hawking is demanding that I provide evidence in support of a position that I clearly stated (on the SAME PAGE) I do not hold.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12274 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:14 pm to
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Yes. When you call me a "pedo," you sacrifice any right to reciprocal civility.

Every third post, that ... individual ... accuses me of holding positions that I have NEVER argued. He IS a moron.

This post was edited on 7/20 at 10:06 pm




To recap Pedohank has advocated for putting child molesters in minimum security prisons. He has stated, numerous times, that he can make a case that child molesters are victims too. He has stated that drag queens reading to kids is all in harmless fun and that transgenders are not violent. He has been proven wrong on every account. You know when he has lost because he starts with name calling and denial. This is why he has earned the name Pedohank but it wasn't by me. His narcissist behavior normally is full blown by the 3rd page of a thread.
I thanked him just a few post ago for pointing out the mental issues trans have and he is on such defense he calls me a moron lol.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30092 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:14 pm to
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Yes. When you call me a "pedo," you sacrifice any right to reciprocal civility.


And you lose the right to lecture and judge the board as to what is proper discourse decorum.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39619 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:15 pm to
So why the frick are you arguing with everyone who “agrees” with you?
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:15 pm to
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AggieHank86


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To recap Pedohank has advocated for putting child molesters in minimum security prisons.


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