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re: Garland does not think attacking fed buildings is terrorism as long as it is done at night
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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“Both are criminal,” Garland added, “but one is a core attack on our democratic institutions.”
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Y'all are reaching a bit here.
So, was the attack on WTC 1 and 2 terror or vandalism? If Flight 77 had struck the Pentagon at midnight, would that have been a mere property offense?
The lengths that some of you will go in defending the acts of leftists (just the Portland attacks which are violent, orchestrated, organized and went on for months and months, actively seeking to change government policy/halt government operations) while condemning, essentially, the equivalent of a rowdy PTA meeting at the Capitol on 1/6/2021 are simply laughable.
We're laughing at you and, thank Mitch, Merrick (Not Justice) Garland.
This is some Susan Rice/HRC, "Youtube video" bullshite right here.
ETA: Which reminds me, which is worse to you folks on the left, Benghazi or 1/6/2021? I'll hang up and listen.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 2:04 pm
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:03 pm to The Maj
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Well, he did say he would prosecute white supremacists...
If true, he would start with Biden.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:people can’t be mad even if it happens elsewhere?
Please point out how that applies to Oregon or the Portland PD.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:06 pm to VoxDawg
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So we can go back to the Capitol, so long as the sun's gone down?
And if you break in or do damage to the building, you will still be prosecuted...as Garland said.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:09 pm to Ace Midnight
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So, was the attack on WTC 1 and 2 terror or vandalism? If Flight 77 had struck the Pentagon at midnight, would that have been a mere property offense?
He's saying one was done to stop a democratic process.
That doesn't mean something like 9/11 isn't terrorism.
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ETA: Which reminds me, which is worse to you folks on the left, Benghazi or 1/6/2021? I'll hang up and listen.
Worse is what way? The same amount of people died in each I believe. I don't really view one as worse than the other. They were both bad.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:11 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Terrorism has never been defined so narrowly as to apply only to prevent government actions in process.
It’s a silly statement, one that fully lays bare Garland’s intellectual squirming over the question.
He should be embarrassed by it.
It’s a silly statement, one that fully lays bare Garland’s intellectual squirming over the question.
He should be embarrassed by it.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He's saying one was done to stop a democratic process.
That doesn't mean something like 9/11 isn't terrorism.
He's suggesting that Antifa Portland operations aren't terrorism, though.
They clearly, unambiguously, without question are terrorist acts with terroristic intentions. Certainly more than the rowdy folks on 1/6/2021.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:20 pm to LuckyTiger
We currently don't have a "Domestic Terrorist" federal law, though many believe we should. The Supreme Court has said that it would potentially violate 1st Amendment freedom of speech and assembly to do so.
Currently, I don't know how "labeling" an act as domestic terror changes anything from a legal standpoint. Those that are prosecuted from their actions are done so under existing federal statutes such as destruction of property, breaking and entering, assault/battery, etc.
Currently, I don't know how "labeling" an act as domestic terror changes anything from a legal standpoint. Those that are prosecuted from their actions are done so under existing federal statutes such as destruction of property, breaking and entering, assault/battery, etc.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:26 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
quote:It sounds stupid, but is there a link to the transcript of this exchange, as opposed to Twitter posts?
Garland does not think attacking fed buildings is terrorism as long as it is done at night
Is there a statute upon which he relies? Just as an example, the common law crime of "burglary" is defined as "the unlawful entry of a building at night with the intent to commit a felony therein." Breaking into a building during the DAY is STILL a crime, simply not the common law crime of "burglary." The same actions constitute a different offense, if undertaken after dark.
So, transcript?
countdown to "defending Garland" ... 3 ...2 ... 1 ....
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:32 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
I'd love to hear his thoughts on charging every state and local official that attempted to interfere with Trump's actions to protect the federal buildings and private property around federal buildings with obstruction of justice. There were several that tried to protect the rioters and prevent the feds from making arrests
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:48 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
The obvious follow up question is "Well, if they burn down the courthouse, even at night, doesn't that stop judges from hearing cases, Mr. Garland?"
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:48 pm to AggieHank86
https://mobile.twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1363927995594010631
Video of him buh uh uhhing his way through his answer.
Video of him buh uh uhhing his way through his answer.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:51 pm to jlovel7
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And this guy was hailed as a moderate
He is a moderate in Dem terms. Just think. They could nominate DeBlasio for the SC.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:52 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Is the Chip Gaines from the home improvement show Fixer Upper
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:55 pm to AggieHank86
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Is there a statute upon which he relies? Just as an example, the common law crime of "burglary" is defined as "the unlawful entry of a building at night with the intent to commit a felony therein." Breaking into a building during the DAY is STILL a crime, simply not the common law crime of "burglary." The same actions constitute a different offense, if undertaken after dark.
Well the common law is one thing but most places have a specific law relating to burglary.
Louisiana:
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A. Simple burglary is the unauthorized entering of any dwelling, vehicle, watercraft, or other structure, movable or immovable, or any cemetery, with the intent to commit a felony or any theft therein, other than as set forth in R.S. 14:60.
Random state - Illinois:
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(a) A person commits burglary when without authority he or she knowingly enters or without authority remains within a building, housetrailer, watercraft, aircraft, motor vehicle, railroad car, or any part thereof, with intent to commit therein a felony or theft. This offense shall not include the offenses set out in Section 4-102 of the Illinois Vehicle Code.
Random state #2 - Nevada:
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1. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 5, a person who, by day or night, enters any house,
room, apartment, tenement, shop, warehouse, store, mill, barn, stable, outhouse or other building, tent,
vessel, vehicle, vehicle trailer, semitrailer or house trailer, airplane, glider, boat or railroad car, with the
intent to commit grand or petit larceny, assault or battery on any person or any felony, or to obtain
money or property by false pretenses, is guilty of burglary.
While the common law might have something to say about night versus day, it seems like a quite poor way to attempt to make a distinction between attacking a federal building at day versus at night.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:57 pm to Ace Midnight
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ETA: Which reminds me, which is worse to you folks on the left, Benghazi or 1/6/2021? I'll hang up and listen.
Not a leftist but obviously 1/6/2021. It happened during the day.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:02 pm to bbrownso
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Well the common law is one thing but most places have a specific law relating to burglary.
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While the common law might have something to say about night versus day, it seems like a quite poor way to attempt to make a distinction between attacking a federal building at day versus at night.
I was simply showing one example in which the law draws a distinction between identical acts committed at night vs. during the daylight hours ... and asking whether Garland might have been referencing a statute which makes a similar distinction.
Or it COULD have just been a stupid comment by Garland. My post allowed for that possibility as well.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:04 pm to bbrownso
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Washington Examiner
@dcexaminer
Merrick Garland: "I think the first thing I should do as part of my briefings on the Capitol Bombing are briefings with Director Wray as to where he sees the biggest threat... "
https://mobile.twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1363951268104822784
He now refers to it as the capitol bombing
FFS
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:06 pm to roadtrash77
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They’re both technically terrorism
But one is because the state keeps allowing cops who F their job up face no repercussions
The other is because Congress was formalizing the results of the election
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:06 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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He now refers to it as the capitol bombing
What fricking bomb
"Oh well uh technically it was a bomb because blah blah blah..."
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