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re: Garland does not think attacking fed buildings is terrorism as long as it is done at night
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:20 pm to jimmy the leg
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Didn’t the DA drop every single case?
I don't know for sure. I read the majority of them had fines they had to pay.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's exactly what you're arguing in this thread. Did you read the OP correctly?
Yes, I know. I'm simply clearing it up that while labeling a group or movement as a terrorist organization can impact investigations, it does not impact what they are ultimately charged with.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:28 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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An attack on a courthouse while in operation, trying to prevent judges from trying cases, that plainly is domestic extremism, domestic terrorism,” Garland said. “An attack simply on a government property at night or under other circumstances is a clear crime, and a serious one, and should be punished.”
You damage a federal building to prevent judges from trying cases in the damaged building you incredulous nut.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:28 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I mean...he testified today that he would prosecute crimes like what occurred in Portland.
Oh, well if he said it, then it must be true.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:32 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Y'all are reaching a bit here.
No. You are.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If you riot, loot, destroy property, kill, etc. you should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
You shouldn't be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law unless everybody who does so is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Since most rioters got fines and/or probation, then that's what we should see for whoever broke the law in a similar fashion on Jan 6.
Right?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:36 pm to Flats
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You shouldn't be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law unless everybody who does so is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Since most rioters got fines and/or probation, then that's what we should see for whoever broke the law in a similar fashion on Jan 6.
Right?
Why didn't you quote my entire statement? I said they both should be.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:38 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:I'm not missing anything. Team Blue overnight went from "ACAB! Defund the police!" to "Sic the feds on anyone associated with Trump! Draft new domestic terror bills to snare our political opponents and expand DHS! Force Fox News off the air!" Yet anyone who questions this staggering hypocrisy in light of four years of ceaseless protesting and months of rioting is fed some bullshite equivocation and expected to accept it without question.
You're missing my entire point.
Based on Garland's own words, the people pounding on the SCOTUS doors in an attempt to stop the seating of a duly confirmed justice were engaged in terrorist activity. Yet they were met with light (if any) charges, hailed with "YASS QUEEN" on social media instead of being booted from it, and somehow weren't targeted by Congress for PATRIOT ACT: Part 2.
And now these same people, who tried for half a decade to convince the population that we were living under a fascist government led by LITERALLY HITLER, are all aboard the "domestic terror" train, demanding new legislation to allow the executive even broader authority to investigate, harass, and charge any person or entity merely associated with the previous administration. Calling for the government to take Fox News, OAN, etc. off the airwaves. Pressuring tech giants to purge anything unfavorable to the Party.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:46 pm to TideCPA
Yes, there is hypocrisy there. I agree.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Why didn't you quote my entire statement? I said they both should be.
And I believe you, but this thread isn't discussing how you'd prosecute them, it's discussing how Garland will. I'm not sure why you want to continue to deflect from that.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
You:
Also you:
Are you suggesting that the investigation has zero impact on what happens in the courtroom? Really?
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Calling someone a domestic terrorist does nothing from a legal standpoint.
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all I am talking about are the ramifications IN COURT
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while labeling a group or movement as a terrorist organization can impact investigations,
Are you suggesting that the investigation has zero impact on what happens in the courtroom? Really?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 5:55 pm to Flats
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Are you suggesting that the investigation has zero impact on what happens in the courtroom? Really?
Not at all. What I meant was it can impact the resources put into the investigation. Again, that goes more toward the targeting of specific groups and/or what the Dept's priorities are.
Garland may choose to totally ignore stuff like what happened in Portland. He may also charge them like he said he would. I guess we'll see.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:14 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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what the Dept's priorities are
That is exactly what everyone in this thread besides you and hank are talking about. We understand that he's revealing his priorities. The two of you apparently don't.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:39 pm to Flats
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That is exactly what everyone in this thread besides you and hank are talking about. We understand that he's revealing his priorities. The two of you apparently don't.
Look, you may be right. Y'all are arguing with me for simply pointing out the status of terrorism law in the country because some seemed to think you can be charged with domestic terrorism.
Can't a guy make a simple point around here?
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:42 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Can't a guy make a simple point around here?
There's a fine line between coy and dishonest. You cross it regularly, which is why you get the responses you get. Hank also occasionally professes to be mystified at the tone people take with him.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:43 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
F u for luring me into the cesspool of evil insanity known as twitter
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:45 pm to Flats
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There's a fine line between coy and dishonest. You cross it regularly, which is why you get the responses you get. Hank also occasionally professes to be mystified at the tone people take with him.
Well some think we are the same person so that makes sense
Apologies for not making myself more clear early on in the thread.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Didn’t the DA drop every single case? I don't know for sure. I read the majority of them had fines they had to pay.
Serious question, if the fines weren’t waived (or paid for by Kamala and friends), what would happen if they chose not to pay. Were the fines from the feds? I don’t know the answer to this (if they were fined at all and not just fully dismissed).
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